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Takuto Maruki vs. Philemon and Nyarlathotep
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Maruki is the master of the faceless god (nyarlathotep) and has since evolved onto adom kadmon, the first man and the first world to transcend the tree of life.
So maruki stomps
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Expect he isn't. The faceless god is merely an avatar of Nyarlathotep and was described to be far weaker.
Persona's aren't actually what they exhibit.
Maruki simply got power of one of the infinite archetypes found within Kadath mandala, a shallower/lesser realm of mondo, the realm in which Nyar has almost complete control over. Maruki simply can't do anything.
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This thread is over three years old. Both profiles are also outdated, hence why there's a restriction of Megami Tensei matches and CRTs.
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Ignoring the fact that this thread is 3 years old and we aren’t able to use MegaTen characters in threads at the moment. This statement is inherently false. In P2 you have to fight the actual Sakya to get him as a persona, as with every other demon in the game. A”K stated himself that he was the source and destination so…are you saying Kadmon just lied about himself? I assume you are new here, but the cosmology page already lists Adam Kadmon as beyond Philemon and Nyarlathotep so it’s cooked on default.
Not sure how people think personas are fake when the entire damn point is that humans made gods in the first place.
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Expect that logic is quite literally wrong on a fundamental level.
Ah yes, i will most definitely trust a wiki that is wrong on MUTIPLE fronts about many Persona characters. They can't even find out what the universe arcana is or means even though it's incredibly obvious.
Adam Kadmon describing himself as "the source and the destination" is just as valid as Izanami describing herself as the mother of Japan and the Elder Things (from Tatsuya's Scenario) as the creators of life on earth: mythologically is true, but factually... they aren't. The same happens with the Thieves Den, since it's just expressing the mythological background. And if they were truly what they were, then Maruki would've been infinitely weaker when he switched from Azathoth to Adam Kadmon, and then there would be like 50 creators of the world. They are speaking symbolically not factually.
ya that doesn't exactly prove the Personas you get are the actual Sakya.
And if you knew anything about the lore about Persona, you would know that Kadath is merely a lower/lesser realm of Kadath, you know, the birth place of all gods and mythologies. That's quite literally to say that Adam Kadmon is quite literally a lesser version of them. And if you truly believe that, than Makoto and Junpei would scale to boundless through their personas.
You are quite literally wrong in every way.
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