Symbol of Fear vs Tornado of Terror (4-2-0)

[Therefir]

Garou vs Tatsumaki

• Battle takes place in Z-City.
• Perfected Fist Garou is being used.
• Both in-character but willing to kill.
• Speed is equalized.

Both are scaling significantly above 5.68 exatons.

Garou: 4 (Phoenks, One-Mastor, Epiccheev, Recon1511)
Tatsumaki: 2 (Coomandar, Kachon123)
Inconclusive:

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Garou slams beyond belief
Sage Centipede should be able to replicate the full power of a weakened tatsumaki, so even upscaling significantly due to her full power being much greater when she fought saitama, perfect fist garou slicing sage in half with a single attack makes him at least as strong as Tatsumaki here
Garou easily resists the direct psychic crushing and lifting stuff as well, and just evolves further until he AP stomps her
and also he's gonna get faster than her too
easy win if not a stomp for garou

 

[Therefir]

@Coomandar seems to think Casual Tatsumaki is stronger than Perfected Fist Garou.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

yeah he's a tatsumaki fan I just wouldn't pay attention to stuff like that

 

[Phoenks]

This is really bad.

Garou is literally resistant to telekinesis and has higher LS

Someone is trolling

 

[Therefir]

Changed to Garou after beating Platinum Sperm.

 

[Therefir]

Garou is literally resistant to telekinesis and has higher LS

Wait, uh? Garou's Class P feat is inferior to Tatsumaki's, he is scaling from the weight of Sage Centipede (1.16*10^15 kg), while Tatsumaki is 1.15*10^16 kg.

 

[Phoenks]

Tatsumaki now stomps. Higher LS + would get past his resistance with TK that vastly surpasses what he has resisted.

Garou also is unable to even attack her because she flies and uses range.

 

[Phoenks]

Wait, uh? Garou's Class P feat is inferior to Tatsumaki's, he is scaling from the weight of Sage Centipede (1.16*10^15 kg), while Tatsumaki is 1.15*10^16 kg.

He can evolve past that to Class E though.

10x gap isn't that serious for Garou either. Also, Garou LS couldn't be more casual.

 

[Therefir]

He can evolve past that to Class E though.

10x gap isn't that serious.

Even Perfected Fist Garou had to evolve several times to reach Class E.

Your arguments won't really change even I used this Garou, so changing it back.

 

[Kachon123]

Following

 

[Phoenks]

Even Perfected Fist Garou had to evolve several times to reach Class E.

You realize the Class P is literally just Sage Centipede moving? It's hilariously casual and Garou evolves a lot from that.

He would get past a 10x difference very fast.

 

[Therefir]

Don't care, you would have to prove that his LF strength became 10 times stronger at that time, which is impossible.

At best you can assume that he is an unknown amount of times stronger until the form with the Class E feat appears.

Plus, Tatsumaki's feat was casual.

 

[Recon1511]

I mean he can still just adapt to her TK, the LS and AP difference isn't enough for an instant crush

Like Garou's adaptation is ridiculously fast, this is the same guy that went from being burned by boiling water to directly tanking Orochi's blasts that melt rock...

 

[Phoenks]

Therefir I'm saying it's very clear that Garou's LS evolves rapidly just like his AP.

And he already upscales from a feat that is immensely casual from Sage Centipede.

It realistically isn't a 10x gap at the start and would very quickly be closed by Garou's AD.

Not to mention, even with a 10x gap Tatsumaki wouldn't be able to just instantly crush him so he would just evolve the same way he did against Psykos' TK.


But anyway, since you changed this to a Garou who has Class G, Tatsumaki stomps via immensely higher LS.

 

[Therefir]

Therefir I'm saying it's very clear that Garou's LS evolves rapidly just like his AP.

Tatsumaki was also very casual when performing the feat, it's not as simple as a x10 difference.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

the more tatsumaki crushes him the faster he's gonna evolve, and she plays around a bit too much in-character to kill him before he's a threat
I don't see her taking this regardless

 

[Phoenks]

Tatsumaki was also very casual when performing the feat, it's not as simple as a x10 difference.

Sure but Sage Centipedes got his LS by literally just existing. And Garou upscales.

 

[Therefir]

Sure but Sage Centipedes got his LS by literally just existing. And Garou upscales.

Not exactly, Garou is scaling from Sage Centipede for overpowering one of his legs with great effort.

However, even if we assume Sage had his entire body off the ground during this sequence, he would still need at least two legs to carry his entire body weight off the ground.

And it goes without saying that cutting the centipede in half with one hit doesn't necessarily make your LS superior to it.

 

[Recon1511]

So wait, are we using Perfected Fist Garou or not?

 

[Therefir]

Your arguments won't really change even I used this Garou, so changing it back.

Yes we are^

I can change it to this Garou if Perfected Fist is considered too strong/doesn't give Tatsumaki enough time to defeat him before evolving past her.

 

[Coomandar]

@Coomandar seems to think Casual Tatsumaki is stronger than Perfected Fist Garou.

and she is.


he needed to put efforts to HK sage centipede

tatsumaki while just touching saitama was already using more power than when she twisted psykosorochi.

 

[Coomandar]

the more tatsumaki crushes him the faster he's gonna evolve, and she plays around a bit too much in-character to kill him before he's a threat
I don't see her taking this regardless

what the heck you guys think garou is????
if tatsumaki crushes him once, he is KILLED. Garou is not immortal and cannot regenerate in a cellular level.
He need to survive to adapt, and he won’t survive any assault here. If she’s bloodlusted, it’s a HK.

 

[One-Mastor]

Voting for Garou here

 

[Coomandar]

fubuki witnessed tatsumaki’s power level during psykorochi’s fight, and yet she called this her full power, meaning that she is using as much energy here as when she twisted the fusion

and even after Fubuki stated that she was using her “full power” on saitama, Tatsumaki was confident that she just needed to increase her power a bit to possibly kill saitama with a touch

and you can’t deny that she is absolutely casual here

 

[Coomandar]

Garou slams beyond belief
Sage Centipede should be able to replicate the full power of a weakened tatsumaki, so even upscaling significantly due to her full power being much greater when she fought saitama, perfect fist garou slicing sage in half with a single attack makes him at least as strong as Tatsumaki here
Garou easily resists the direct psychic crushing and lifting stuff as well, and just evolves further until he AP stomps her
and also he's gonna get faster than her too
easy win if not a stomp for garou

You forget the fact that he used ALL of his strenght to slice sage centipede. Meanwhile she was EXTREMELY casual while completely beyond sage’s level.


im definetely voting for tatsumaki this one, her TK crushes CELLS, and she can just blow garou from the inside out, he has never shown this kinda of regeneration, he will just die.


a thought is one billions of times faster than an action, and speed is equalized.


“uuh tatsumaki was casual while struggling with psykorochi” tatsumaki showed to be superior even while suppressed, without mentioning that psykosorochi’s has the best TK’s resistance in the series.

 

[Kachon123]

Tats FRA

 

[Coomandar]

someone with this kind of TK’s resistance got instantly crushed once tatsumaki got serious.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

You forget the fact that he used ALL of his strenght to slice sage centipede. Meanwhile she was EXTREMELY casual while completely beyond sage’s level.


im definetely voting for tatsumaki this one, her TK crushes CELLS, and she can just blow garou from the inside out, he has never shown this kinda of regeneration, he will just die.


a thought is one billions of times faster than an action, and speed is equalized.


“uuh tatsumaki was casual while struggling with psykorochi” tatsumaki showed to be superior even while suppressed, without mentioning that psykosorochi’s has the best TK’s resistance in the series.

The cellular crushing feat was done with her full power, and even she thought she might have exerted herself too much before knowing that God inferfered
she was weakened but that’s it. Also, Psykos has no TK resistance feat what the hell are you talking about? Garou’s the one who was able to evolve to Gyoro’s psychic power in an extremely short amount of time, and his reactive evolution only gets better by the time he’s perfect fist
tatsumaki absolutely has no way of overcoming his resistance.

So basically not only is it wank to say casual tatsumaki can upscale from Sage, but it’s also just blatantly wrong to say that Psykos has TK resistance, and it’s also blatantly wrong to say that a Garou who can slice Sage in half with one attack would be anywhere near fodder enough for tatsumaki to crush on a cellular level

no matter what Tatsumaki does, no matter if she goes out of character and uses her full power from the start, Garou’s probably gonna have enough time to evolve and he’s instantly gonna bulk up to the form that he fought Saitama with.

 

[Coomandar]

fubuki witnessed tatsumaki’s power level during psykorochi’s fight, and yet she called this her full power, meaning that she is using as much energy here as when she twisted the fusion

and even after Fubuki stated that she was using her “full power” on saitama, Tatsumaki was confident that she just needed to increase her power a bit to possibly kill saitama with a touch

and you can’t deny that she is absolutely casual here

Ziller i dont care if you accept or not, she does scales above Sage centipede while casually and the manga makes it blatantly obvious.

And yes, Psykosorochi has TK’ resistance lol, this is literally what her barriers does.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

She didn’t have a barrier up when she got twisted ya goofy goober

 

[Coomandar]

The cellular crushing feat was done with her full power

no, it was done with her full power at that moment, when she was totally weakened….


she is much stronger than that.


and garou cannot adapt if he cannot survive.


he cannot resist celular level damages.

 

[Coomandar]

She didn’t have a barrier up when she got twisted ya goofy goober

she literally had.


her barrier is invisible and is up EVERYTIME.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Uh no it is most certainly visible once she actually puts it up

 

[Epiccheev]

Like a wise man once said:
Garou adapts GG

 

[Coomandar]

it’s not.
literally invisible to human eyes. Tatsumaki herself only noticed because she can detect it

 

[Coomandar]

but its crazy to think that psykosorochi would turn off her barrier in the most important moment lol

 

[ZillertheBucko]

it’s not.
literally invisible to human eyes. Tatsumaki herself only noticed because she can detect it

Coom she literally used her hands for that shit

 

[Coomandar]

Coom she literally used her hands for that shit

the stone clashed the barrier, as you can see the impact

the barrier is clearly invisible when not under contact

 

[ZillertheBucko]

The barrier that we see actually visible would’ve stopped if before it touched her hands. Coom the barrier simply wasn’t up at that moment