Symbol of Fear vs Symbol of Fear (0-1-0)

[Catbowtie]

Post-Sage Centipede Garou vs Complete Shigaraki​

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• Scales to 42.07 Petatons of TNT
• Class E Lifting Strength

Scales to 42.37 Petatons of TNT
Class E Lifting Strength​

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Assumptions:​

Speed Equalized.
Both Combatants are In-Character
Both combatants are High 6-A
Fight takes place at Mountain Fuji
Combatants start 4 kilometers away from each other
Otherwise, Standard Battle Assumptions​

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Combatants	Votes
The popular will win, the hated will lose. It's such a tragedy. Then I won't lose to anyone. I will become the strongest monster ever and change this scenario
...The villains...need a hero of their own	@Therefir
Both share the title (Inconclusive)

 

[Catbowtie]

Bump

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

So with what would start Deku?
Garou would close the distance and probably try to go around him while reading his movements to find an opening to attack.

 

[Catbowtie]

From the starting range, Deku starts with Blackwhip. It's range is Hundreds of Meters. Blackwhip uses Deku's Lifting Strength. Deku has Class K without One For All compared to Garou's initial Lifting Strength of Class G. Garou has a massive Lifting Strength difference over until Deku uses One For All to jump to Class E.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

From the starting range, Deku starts with Blackwhip. It's range is Hundreds of Meters. Blackwhip uses Deku's Lifting Strength. Deku has Class K without One For All compared to Garou's initial Lifting Strength of Class G. Garou has a massive Lifting Strength difference over until Deku uses One For All to jump to Class E.

sure, the thing is that Blackwhip need to touch Garou for Deku grab him, which would be hard due Garou mobility and deflecting it

 

[Catbowtie]

Absolutely.

 

[Catbowtie]

Edit: Change the range.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I doubt Deku would launch a shock wave from that distance with the low probability of not causing collateral damage, so I guess he will move towards Garou until he has him in sight and use BW, i guess

Garou could also close the gap in an instant and hit Deku, if he does not activate the OFA at a level above 30%

 

[Catbowtie]

Both have Enhanced Senses. I'm leaning towards Garou having more potency in his.

Deku would eventually notice that Ghost Town is in fact, a ghost town.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Deku just wins

SBA means both will be starting at their best so Deku will just have OFA active

Garou’s mobility means nothing in this fight specifically because Deku knows Garou’s backstory to become the ultimate evil and will just active Gearshift on himself to take 0 chances (even without background knowledge, Garou claiming himself that way will have Deku go and do it anyways), which is several layers of blitz on top of each other in 2nd, 3rd, and Top Gear

Deku doesn’t even need that because speed is unequalized, so the moment Deku activated OFA, he’s now SoL vs an Opponent starting at MHS+. And given He is 6-B with OFA, he will just one tap 7-A Garou

AND EVEN IF you change is so that Deku starts in base, the base hypersonic+ Reaction is atleast .000294 seconds, and it will take Garou a bit over .011 to travel 4 kilometers at baseline MHS+ (as he doesn’t have a calc and both bang/bomb are MHS)

This is a giant mismatch while speed is unequal, either Garou starts at 6-A and FTL and wins, or he doesn’t and Deku wins. And even with speed equal, Deku again, has gearshift to blitz and knock Garou into the dirt like a Sack of potatoes unless Garou again, starts at 6-A, and then it’s an ap stomp the opposite way

 

[Catbowtie]

Going to give a knee jerk reaction and say that this thread should be closed then.

 

[Catbowtie]

Bump.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Going to give a knee jerk reaction and say that this thread should be closed then.

correct
It doesn't work as a fight due to the stat differences, unless you think that Garou can avoid a person that can blitz him several times over, one shot him, sense where he is thanks to his hostility and give himself several amps in power to naturally become strong enough to beat him

 

[Spinoirr]

Also Deku will become 6-A lol

So wait until then

 

[Catbowtie]

Also Deku will become 6-A lol

So wait until then

Holdup what?

 

[Catbowtie]

correct
It doesn't work as a fight due to the stat differences, unless you think that Garou can avoid a person that can blitz him several times over, one shot him, sense where he is thanks to his hostility and give himself several amps in power to naturally become strong enough to beat him

Yea that's a stomp.

I don't know how to get threads closed. Do I ping a Thread Moderator?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Yea that's a stomp.

I don't know how to get threads closed. Do I ping a Thread Moderator?

Yeh or ask Antvasima

Holdup what?

Depending on how his final punch is calc'd Deku will become Either High 6-B or 6-A, but that's a massive revision in the works

 

[Catbowtie]

Yeh or ask Antvasima

How do I appropriately do so?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I don't know how to get threads closed. Do I ping a Thread Moderator?

Normal members can't ping staff

You should ask for the match to be closed in the All purpose request thread

 

[Catbowtie]

Everything got changed. Ba-dump

 

[TheRustyOne]

So Garou speed blitz.

He scales to Post-Superfight Genos, who scales above Mach 42.3. Also, the scaling chain has multiple blitzes before this point. Mach 29 is the speed value of chapter 1 Genos, who's capable of blitzing his chapter 1 self several times over. So yeah this is a speed stomp.

Going on the assumption you'll equalize speed.

There isn't a single thing Izuku has that can land a blow on Garou. He's vastly more skilled in CQC that it's not even funny, his ability to redirect attacks would work on anything Izuku can use. The only thing Izuku might be able to hit on Garou would be a surprise large AOE attack from his shockwaves.

But that'd only work once at best, any other attempts would be redirected with WSRSF.

However, Izuku isn't dumb and will very quickly realize he stands no chance against Garou up close. Meaning he'll begin keeping his distance and attack Garou at range instead with Air Force, Blackwhip, and any thrown objects he can grab. Although, I don't think any of this can put Garou down.

He can dodge or redirect any of Izuku's ranged attacks, I don't see any of that hitting him. Blackwhip is worthless against Garou due to the LS difference alone.

Assuming speed equalization. Izuku cannot take Garou down from range, I literally cannot see how he could. I don't know how Garou's stamina is against things that aren't wearing him down. But with whatever his Reactive Evolution do, fighting Garou in a prologued battle is always a bad thing.

He'll eventually reach a point where Izuku will be vastly slower than him and his attacks can be effortlessly dodged.

So I'm pretty Izuku can, at best, delay an inevitable outcome.

Not certain how fair this is even when though I'm giving Izuku the benefit of the doubt here. I don't see what he has that can even take Garou out. It's not even a case of him having something he can use but he doesn't use it quickly enough in character. Izuku could be bloodlusted and I still don't see him landing a single hit on Garou.

The difference in their skill and abilities is just too great. Honestly, I don't think Izuku vs Garou can ever work at all.

Although, right now this is a speed blitz/stomp.

 

[Catbowtie]

Changed it to speed equalized. I would suggest having Deku go to higher percentages but that'd just be the High 6-A fight all over again.

 

[Raiden38]

Garou FRA

 

[noninho]

Last weak we had a match with this same characters but H6A

What's different, pretty much?

 

[Catbowtie]

Garou has less abilities and Deku had an AP advantage but oh well.

 

[noninho]

Garou has less abilities and Deku had an AP advantage but oh well.

Just to be sure and to leave it registered here, ty

 

[Catbowtie]

I changed everything again. Hopefully this is different from the Garou vs Deku one

 

[Kachon123]

Shigaraki gets Fa Jin'd

 

[Catbowtie]

Appreciate your input

 

[Therefir]

Hmm, I guess Garou would start approaching to use his martial arts techniques against Shigaraki, while this one would launch his wide arsenal of ranged attacks against Garou.

Without prior knowledge, Garou will most likely end up Decayed at the slightest contact with Quirks that can transfer Decay, such as protruding limbs or Rivet Stab.

So I'm voting Shigaraki for having far better versatility and extended range attack options, this is especially important since Garou will have a lot of trouble approaching Shigaraki from 4 kilometers away.

 

[Catbowtie]

I don't think the 4 kilometer range is all that bad. Garou can see the Decay Wave coming, the Rivet Stabs, or Protruding Limbs and react to it accordingly by flying over it, or dodging the latter two with his Analytical Prediction. Instinctive Reaction will get him out of any Rivet Stabs or Protruding Limbs that Garou somehow didn't see or account for.

If Shigaraki decides to go with the Thousands of Kilometers Decay, the location will just be a vacuum of air. Garou can function just fine while in air and Shigaraki wouldn't have the option to just nuke the immediate area with Decay later into the fight to kill Garou should Garou get close and Shigaraki gets uncomfortable.

 

[Catbowtie]

Bump