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How about Buu punching him, then?Buu has inconsistent durability.
Didn't Buu basically 2-shot Shin with ease? A clap on the head to stun/incapacitate him and a punch to the head to knock Shin to the ground. Done whilst Buu was fighting pretty casually.How about Buu punching him, then?
Yeah, but he got back up from the punch, flew back at Buu, and launched an attack of his own, which, despite not hurting Buu, pushed the Majin back a bit.Didn't Buu basically 2-shot Shin with ease? A clap on the head to stun/incapacitate him and a punch to the head to knock Shin to the ground. Done whilst Buu was fighting pretty casually.
I wouldn't say Shin significantly scales off of that.
So what? Majin Vegeta was stomped by Buu and easily made a hole in himYeah, but he got back up from the punch, flew back at Buu, and launched an attack of his own, which, despite not hurting Buu, pushed the Majin back a bit.
Proof? Because Shin was amazed by even what Vegeta showed against Pui-Pui to kill him.Shin isn't weaker than Pui Pui, he's just a coward.
Yeah. Shin absolutely doesn't scale to Buu. Not even in the slightest. Buu was toying with him the entire time and was never serious in that fight.Didn't Buu basically 2-shot Shin with ease? A clap on the head to stun/incapacitate him and a punch to the head to knock Shin to the ground. Done whilst Buu was fighting pretty casually.
I wouldn't say Shin significantly scales off of that.
Aren't all the kais terrified of anyone stronger than Frieza tho?Proof? Because Shin was amazed by even what Vegeta showed against Pui-Pui to kill him.
Besides, if Shin would've been stronger, he wouldn't been so afarid of even him
No? Supreme Kai was terrified of Babidi's minions, including Pui-Pui, but wasn't shown to be scared particularly from other people, such as the Z FightersAren't all the kais terrified of anyone stronger than Frieza tho?
That's cuz they're on the same side. The Majin army also had a terrifying reputation, with Babidi claiming Pui Pui could beat all 3 Saiyans at once.No? Supreme Kai was terrified of Babidi's minions, including Pui-Pui, but wasn't shown to be scared particularly from other people, such as the Z Fighters
Still, Shin was terrified of even Pui-Pui despite his strength, more than implying Shin is weaker. Besides, Shin knows how strong they are so if they wouldn't be stronger than him, he wouldn't have feared them even when Dabura wasn't aroundThat's cuz they're on the same side. The Majin army also had a terrifying reputation, with Babidi claiming Pui Pui could beat all 3 Saiyans at once.
He was also scared of Babidi, despite having killed his pops.Still, Shin was terrified of even Pui-Pui despite his strength, more than implying Shin is weaker. Besides, Shin knows how strong they are so if they wouldn't be stronger than him, he wouldn't have feared them even when Dabura wasn't around
It's mostly because Babidi: 1) Have magic, and can use them against Shin, and 2) Is pretty much always protected by Dabura, so Shin can't really touch him, especially when Dabura is literally Babidi's puppetHe was also scared of Babidi, despite having killed his pops.
I mean, at that point, maybe he's only scared of Yakon because of hax. And Pui Pui might just be a mystery to him.It's mostly because Babidi: 1) Have magic, and can use them against Shin, and 2) Is pretty much always protected by Dabura, so Shin can't really touch him, especially when Dabura is literally Babidi's puppet
Yakon have no hax aside from being able to absorb light, which is whatever.I mean, at that point, maybe he's only scared of Yakon because of hax. And Pui Pui might just be a mystery to him.
Piccolo says that the gap between them are "dimensions apart"What's the reason we scale Shin above Piccolo? I don't remember any statement about that
When it was stated exactly?Shin cannot be weaker than pui pui, as pui pui os weaker than base Saiyans in buu arc who were weaker than Frieza as stated in BoG. He was just worried about everything for some reason.
This is utter bullshit. Beerus' statement about Goku being unable to beat freeza in base is demonstrably false.Shin cannot be weaker than pui pui, as pui pui os weaker than base Saiyans in buu arc who were weaker than Frieza as stated in BoG. He was just worried about everything for some reason.
On the other hand, while piccolo revered him, we know piccolo couldn't sense his ki as he had god ki, so statements of his strength coming from Piccolo wouldn't be usable, although I remember a guidebook saying that Shin's power dwarved piccolo's or so.
Yeah, especially since Shin considers Babidi's minions to be very dangerous, and he can one shot Frieza.
This is utter bullshit. Beerus' statement about Goku being unable to beat freeza in base is demonstrably false.
Piccolo can't sense godly kiPiccolo says that the gap between them are "dimensions apart"
DEAR GODS, HE HAS MORE KI?Piccolo can't sense godly ki
Is there evidence of that? I mean, in his base form..
This is utter bullshit. Beerus' statement about Goku being unable to beat freeza in base is demonstrably false.
Didn’t piccolo merge with kami? He should have a little bit of god ki right?DEAR GODS, HE HAS MORE KI?
Kami doesn't have god ki. He can use Kai Kai, but that's where it ends.Didn’t piccolo merge with kami? He should have a little bit of god ki right?
But kami was the god of earth and even knew king Kai meaning that he was a god at least a very minor one.Kami doesn't have god ki
Not all gods have god ki.But kami was the god of earth and even knew king Kai meaning that he was a god at least a very minor one.
Yeah, it's only Supreme KaisGoku can teleport to King Kai's Planet, this means that King Kai doesn't have God Ki.
Yes. Freeza <<<<<<<<<<<<< buu saga piccolo <<< shin < pui pui < yakon < buu saga base goku.Is there evidence of that? I mean, in his base form.
Ah, because of Piccolo, right.Yes. Freeza <<<<<<<<<<<<< buu saga piccolo <<< shin < pui pui < yakon < buu saga base goku.
If you don't like that, vegeta states that he can beat the budokai without SSJ even if piccolo is participating.
Yah don't like that? Then beerus' statement is still wrong because Goku is above PU Gohan in battle of gods which puts his base form above base gotenks who is above Super perfect cell.
Shin was not a coward when he was facing piccolo was he?To be fair, Shin's a coward, and Vegeta’s egotistical. They're not necessarily reliable narrators.
Vegeta is well aware of Piccolo's powers though, and while it is true that he sometimes overestimate himself, these were mostly when he couldn't sense the enemy (such as against A18. Vegeta however knew he'll lose against Frieza and the Ginyus)To be fair, Shin's a coward, and Vegeta’s egotistical. They're not necessarily reliable narrators.
We have no proof for this scaling.buu saga piccolo <<< shin
Piccolo is visibly shaken when challenged by him and deemed him of a "different order of being", with the Daizenshuu confirming Shin was stronger.We have no proof for this scaling.