Superman VS Alma Elma

[ZacharyGrossman273]

2-A and speed equalized
Superman (Post-Flashpoint):

Alma Elma:

Incon:

 

[Ionliosite]

Why do use a pic of New 52 Supes when you're using Rebirth?

What does she do that Supes doesn't resist?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Most of Superman's resist is 3-D

Alma's 4-D

Also Alma scales to people who one shots baselines

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

So what does she do then?

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

I think sundipping has shown to increase his resistance to things? Not too sure, don't quote me on that.

But while trying to find how high into 2-A Superman was, I did recently find this. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Oliver_de_jesus/DC_Infinity_x_infinity_above_baseline

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Still not ready but at least in the pre crisis crisis mobius made a feat 2A Infinitely above the baseline (the World forger scale) which is this

 

[LordUrien935]

I am quite certain sun-dipped Superman is well above baseline. By how much, I'm not sure.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bimp

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

From the information I'm hearing, it sounds like that APwise alone, Superman would oneshot.

 

[Ionliosite]

How far into 2-A is Alma Elma?

 

[LordUrien935]

Apparently she scales to people who one shots baseline 2-As. If that's the case... Superman has a considerable AP advantage.

 

[Ionliosite]

... How Superman has the AP adventage? Doesn't he scale to a baseline?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

You are + or - ready

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Oliver_de_jesus/DC_Infinity_x_infinity_above_baseline

I just want to say that Superman doesn't climb this anymore; since the blow he gave the Forger is outlier, since he was in the 6th Dimension and in his 1A state

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't see that having been accepted.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

It is in process

But even if it was accepted or not, the 2A key of sups goes away.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

So what does she do then?

^^

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Lewd

or Charm

 

[Ionliosite]

Supes won't fall before any woman who isn't Lois.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

How tall are the characters of Monster Girl Quest! on the 2A scale?, since they superman scale to the world forger that has the energy of a kingdom (dark multiverse) infinitely larger than an infinite multiverse with infinite timelines and you see all the fear and hopefully create new realities in the dark multiverse .

 

[Newendigo]

I'm pretty sure that Superman can't maintain his 2-A tier for long periods of time. The whole point of him ramming through a bunch of stars is because he needed to recharge himself after starving for solar energy so much time.

His boost will eventually wear down, and at that point his opponent will breath and is over.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

@Ion

You underestimate the power of like, passive mindhax on an entire country (not something Alma does, but she scales to people who can resist it)

@Oliver

Pretty sure the infinitely above 2-A thing isn't accepted yet

 

[Ionliosite]

Well, you just said "lewd or charm", not mindhax. Anyway, Supes has resistance to both mind and empathic manip on his profile.

 

[Newendigo]

It doesn't really say an specifc level of resistence, just that he can build psychic defenses.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah he needs feats of resisting shit on Alma's level.

 

[LordUrien935]

I'm pretty sure that Superman can't maintain his 2-A tier for long periods of time. The whole point of him ramming through a bunch of stars is because he needed to recharge himself after starving for solar energy so much time.
His boost will eventually wear down, and at that point his opponent will breath and is over.

He won't have to worry about maintaining his power if he's able to one-shot.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but

1. One shot thing isn't accepted afaik

2. Even if it is, Alma specializes in speed amp and dodging. If Supes doesn't resist most of her hax, there is a very real chance he could be outhaxxed and/or outlasted.

 

[Newendigo]

But he is not one-shoting, as Saikou pointed that blog of Oliver has not been accepted.

Superman's powerup eventually decreases to his normal state.

Alma process to do to Clark what Luka suffered in paradox.

/thread.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The way I talk about my blog (prince is making one) is that the dark multiverse is infinitely larger than the normal multiverse (it was said as 3 times in metal) that contains infinite timelines and infinite universes.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

So, Alma stomps via passive mindhax, I guess. If Supes' resistance isn't enough, then I don't see what he'll do against it since it's passive.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

in fact he resisted the mindhax of brainiac

and I take MMH out of his mind though it takes a long time to be an impressive feat

so this is not a stomp

 

[Biotorex]

You used the wrong picture that's New 52 Superman. The 2-A feat was done by Rebirth

 

[Newendigo]

The pictures don't really matter tho.

Plus FP design is much cooler than Rebirth.

 

[Ionliosite]

But... the undies!

 

[Newendigo]

How Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel came to the conclusion of a hero that wears his underwear outsite is beyond my understanding.