Prolly because he's one of the strongest Lanterns to ever breathe
prolly because it exhausted John and brought him to his limit
Isn't Flash the only dude who physically scales to Eobard Thawne? Or does anyone have scenes of the other heavy-hitters of the league tango'ing with him?
Superman extending his arm is essentially like running into a wall for Thawne.
yeah but scaling like that isn't allowed on vsbw.
Well, though it is a creation feat, it is indeed powered by his willpower like all his other attacks, which works as a Universal Power System of sorts, so prolly at his peak he would scale, yeah.
Scan?
AFAIK, Pre-merging Rebirth Superman is the same Post-Crisis Superman we all know and love, just in the New 52 Universe.
The only problem with this is that we are doing tons of back scaling, even if we leave aside the idea of cross-continuity scaling. The Orion feat happens in Hal and Pals (halfway through rebirth) and the fight between Supermen was in the end of new 52 - essentially 1 and half year prior. And new 52 supes vs Orion happened halfway through supes and wondy run, which was around 1 or 2 years before N52 Supes' death.
Oh, right, I completely forgot that Orion's 4-B feat happened in Rebirth
Comic source? Need that for references given just how tough it is to find the comics.
I can see the disagreement if it were for other characters, but Superman seems like a no-brainer to scale to. This is basically the same Superman from Post-Crisis who just so ended up being transported on the front porch of New 52 Superman's house.
2-C? We already had hard time to find valid 3-A/Low 2-C for Superman via either feats or scaling, i really want to see where this 2-C come from.
Cross scaling Pre-Crisis Superman and Superboy-Prime to Post-Crisis Superman from what others attempted to do. But that's like 3-A Krillin/Master Roshi levels of downscaling.
Is somebody here willing to properly handle this please? Also, which other character profile pages need to be updated as well?
I am aware that the Post-Rebirth Superman is officially a merger of his Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint selves, but do not consider it reliable at all to backscale between different continuities. By that logic we would have to scale sundipped Post-Crisis Superman to the World Forger, even though he has no feats of anywhere near that scale on his own.
Yes, I wondered if any pages other than that need an update based on these revisions.
I know that Alan its quite strong, but i'm not sure if he like far far above the rest of the Justice League, because if other heavy hitters do at least downscale to him, then Superman and other are easily around if not above baseline 4-B.
Good point
Alan is strong but not so strong that he’d stomp the Justice League or anything. Kyle Rayner could clash on par with him, for instance.
The method used (which leads to 4-B) is the only correct way to calc the IMP in the way that we currently interpret it. There was a big thread about this a while back.
Yeah, we shifted to the Lorentz factor which wields 1 kiloFOE, which is indeed 4-B.
Then i think he and other JLA members can keep their 4-B tier.
I will unlock the pages. Tell me here when you are done.
Superman generally struggles with planet-moon level moving feats (there's also a scan where Superman stated that he can benchpress a planet). I think Class Y is more consistent for his LS.
Superman's current LS justification:
Can Stellar LS remain as just possibly instead to be completely removed?
