Sending someone flying is not “easily defeating” them, and Superman and Doomsday don’t even make contact in that scan.
I meant to say easily overpowering. The point is how casual Doomsday is during it, not even really focusing on her.
Here's Superman stopping him, it's not really shown in either page but it's super clearly implied.
Also as far as I can tell, Superman #871 doesn’t exist. The longest running Superman series I can find is Superman Vol. 1 (1939-2011), which ended with Superman #714.
Typo, meant to say Action Comics #871. My bad, was in a bit of a rush writing it.
Not to mention the fact that there’s multiple examples in my sandbox of Kara fighting and matching Doomsdays.
She had a lot of help against the clones in 3 of the scans you showed, and during the event, even with that help there were occasions that the Doomsday were overpowering her.
Lex’s gauntlet
had four different kinds of Kryptonite in it (Supergirl Vol. 5 #3, November 2005) when he fought Supergirl, and he was
constantly exposing her to it. If anything, that only means Kal would be stronger than her if they didn’t have powers.
Maybe so, but as far as I can tell from the fight, he only used green Kryptonite until he used black Kyrptonite at the end. Lex also was using the Kryptonite against Supes, so I don't see why him exposing it to Kara is that relevant. This is a pretty clear example that when both are weakened by the same circumstance (if anything Superman being more weakened due to previous events in the issue).
This is the only decent “anti-feat” for Kara being weaker than Kal, but it has a similar problem to the first one of portraying Superman as vastly above her, which is consistently shown and stated to not be the case.
Tbh, I don't think it's that inconsistent.
Like how:
1. Superman takes on Ursa, Non and eventually Zod (Superman: War of the Supermen #0 and #1), while Supergirl loses to Ursa alone (Superman: War of the Supermen 4).
2. Darkseid tanked a punch from Supergirl without flinching at all (Superman/Batman #25). Supes obviously scales to Darkseid, so you get the idea.
3. Supergirl's consistent rival Powergirl struggling to restrain Superman despite the help of tons of other heroes and being in a state of no-mercy (Superman/Batman #33).
And that’s also ignoring how Kara directly scales to or above Superman-level people like Bizarro, Doomsday, Ultraman and Martian Manhunter, and she stomped the latter two.
Superman's pretty consistently above Bizarro. The stuff on the Bizzaro page is also kinda off, like sending him flying once when he's occupied with saving people and
one time where he notices it's too easy because Supes is letting Bizarro hit him that far aren't the best of evidence. Especially with other occasions where Supes has beat him kinda lopsidedly (Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman #3).
I don't want to derail the others that much, but I don't have an issue with Superman being Doomsday, Ultraman, Manhunter, etc. as well. There's a lot of evidence for some of those specifically, but I don't want to derail the thread into Supes vs Manhunter or some such.
I already explained earlier in this thread how they’re not outdated-
Well, even if you want to back Supergirl being >~ Superman, I countered those specific statements in my initial response.
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