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(Super) Spirit Bomb = EE
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Nullflowerblush
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The Daizenshuu literally refers to it as a Spirit Bomb that's more powerful ("A Genki-Dama made by asking everybody on Earth to donate their ki").
DivineAura44
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DivineAura44
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DIsagree with the EE tho.
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SS3 Gotenks and Goku were also capable of killing Boo by eradicating it.
The Daizenshuu's character guide also says that Buu regenerates as long as a singular cell remains. So Goku only needed to destroy Buu to the sub-cellular level rather than outright erase him.
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Well, I don't know why you think it's existence erasure, it just appears to completely annihilate buu beyond his regeneration. Buu's regen can save him from being turned to vapor. Which means that the spirit bomb must have atomized him. You can interpret those statements as hyperbole really, like what is different from a normal energy blast and the genki-dama?
DivineAura44
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The Genki-Dama isn't a regular ki attack.
Vietthai96
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And you here to explain how Spirit Bomb is Conceptual again. Seriously this topic should be closed
And if Spirit Bomb is EE, then everyone with Ki Manip will have EE and the entire verse will have EE cause Spirit Bomb is made up of Ki
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That's true^. I don't know why the genki-dama should be any different from other ki techniques. It's just an exceptionally large ball of ki from different people.
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Spirit bomb isn't made of normal ki. What even are you saying, do you even read dragon ball
Hasty12345
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just a question, but if the spirit bomb erases people from existence, why would Goku use it in the ToP knowing he'd get erased if he broke the rules?
correct me if I'm remembering the ToP wrong.
correct me if I'm remembering the ToP wrong.
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You know you need to explain why it's different right?
And no source says the ki is different.
Source 1 "Gathered from the power of all of the people on the earth"
Source 6 "Collected from the Ki of all humanity"
So unless regular people's Ki has EE, this should've been declined a while ago
Vietthai96
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Sorry but the burden of proof is on you to prove that Spirit Bomb is special
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It erased someone thats why its special. No need for more supporting evidence, you are the one who needs to show evidence it isn't special since you made the claim
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So if I erase words from a piece of paper I have EE right?
"Erase" does not mean "erase from existence".
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I think that is because Spirit Bomb can't kill good people. Pride Troupes is a group that brings justice and peace to their universe. So Jiren is a good person, Spirit Bomb would just knock him out if it was strong enough.
DivineAura44
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Because nobody there was made of 100% percent evil. Also Goku for Jiren would be a trade I make any day of my life.
DivineAura44
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Because he wasn't pure good. Or at least we have no proof he was.
DivineAura44
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If they give power to Goku and Goku gives it to the Spirit Bomb then that doesn't matter.
Vietthai96
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No just nooooooooooooo, stop with this nonsense Concept and EE Spirit Bomb
DivineAura44
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I literally rejected EE Spirit Bomb.
DivineAura44
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Also this is not an argument. Well at least not a good one?
Vietthai96
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How the hell i could make an argument with a baseless claim
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I disagree with this, and I believe when they refer to the term "Erased" they mean killed/destroyed. It's not erasure existence, when it didn't erase frieza in Namek saga. Sure, it was weaker before, but it would still be the same technique.
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But goku is pure of heart, that's facts. It's the whole reason he can ride the nimbus cloud. Maybe he was gonna get killed because he was in blue but I think goku has SSJ mastered like it's his base although I think that's been contradicted since krillin said that goku reverts to base because he needs to be pure of heart to gather energy but for example the spirit bomb was gonna kill vegeta when goku was firing it at buu, but vegeta was actually considered a good person because he was returned to life by the dragon, so that's why the spirit bomb could possibly kill a good person.
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Numerous attacks being made up out of ki does not mean they work the same. Kienzan is a prime example.
Because ''erasing'' a word from a piece of paper is the same as erasing a person's body from the universe, right? Stop comparing apples to oranges.
His soul wasn't erased. His body was.
It's called a ''Super Genki-Dama'' instead of ''Genki-Dama''. They make it clear that this a different version of the technique numerous times.
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Quote where it says erased from the universe
Vietthai96
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1. Baseless assumption, Ki attack is Ki attack, and to point out your flaw, Kienzan got tanked by Perfect Cell, that mean it still being tied by power level of user. And if a skill being tied by their AP, they are not Hax
2. No, anyone with massive amount of AP advantage, not just DB could destroy their opponent beyond cellular, atomic level
3. Yes his body was erased, by what, he tank it before Goku got back his power and powering up, that mean Spirit Bomb still being tied by user power level and if a skill being tied by their AP, they are not Hax.
4 Just different name, with bigger size, AP and have more mount of Ki. or Vegeta Big Bang Attack will have universal AP, using figurative, flowery word will not get you anywhere
Vietthai96
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Goku even murmuring when he holding the Spirit Bomb when he could only gathered the Ki from Z Fighter that this is not enough, mean it doesn't have enough power do destroy Buu, so the point of EE Spirit Bomb is moot here
DivineAura44
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Baseless? I don't know about that one.
DivineAura44
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He doesn't ride it anymore.
DivineAura44
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Maybe you have to overpower them with the Spirit Bomb, you know like Jiren?
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Um and? Doesn't prove he can't, In fact he is still able to since he can use the spirit bomb.
Vietthai96
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Goku interacting with Nimbus in the filler arc if i'm remember, when he with Krillin fighting the fake Super Sheron. He could call, talking to it mean he could still ride it if needed
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