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How strong is Homie's Heat Vision? It matches Butchers which somewhat damages Soldier Boy (if you can call this damage). So, 8-C Heat Vision? If so, shouldn't Kuroki be able to tank that.
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H-How did you even reach the conclusion that it's 8-C? Did you read the profile? His heat vision upscales from his physical strength which already upscales from 289 tons. Kuroki also has no feats of resisting heat that's over 3500°C.How strong is Homie's Heat Vision? It matches Butchers which somewhat damages Soldier Boy (if you can call this damage). So, 8-C Heat Vision? If so, shouldn't Kuroki be able to tank that.
He does but I don't think it's anywhere near Homelander's heat vision.Kuroki also has no heat resistance.
Uh, yes he does?H-How did you even reach the conclusion that it's 8-C? Did you read the profile? His heat vision upscales from his physical strength which already upscales from 289 tons. Kuroki also has no heat resistance.
Resistance to Fire Manipulation (Capable of performing Purgatory Austerity),
Is it over 3500°C?Uh, yes he does?
The purgatory austerity is just standing in a pit of fire, and Kuroki performed this with not a single burn.
.H-How did you even reach the conclusion that it's 8-C? Did you read the profile? His heat vision upscales from his physical strength which already upscales from 289 tons. Kuroki also has no feats of resisting heat that's over 3500°C.
Dunno, but whether or not it is idrc, I was just pointing out that you were wrong about him not possessing general heat resistance.Is it over 3500°C?
I haven't finished editing my comment.Dunno, but whether or not it is idrc, I was just pointing out that you were wrong about him not possessing general heat resistance.
.Seems pretty even to me.Misread the profile ignore this
Looked at Soldier Boy's Profile. Didn't see the 8A Physically in front. So yeah, Homie does have 8A Heat Vision.Let me guess, you looked at the newest cancer key and thought Butcher was only 8-C?
Except that would logically be able to anticipate things that you're aware of. Guns or Physical combat are one thing because that would be something he's very familiar with. Heat Vision does not exist in Kengan, unless there's something I don't know. Analytical Prediction is based off of things you know, it's not Divination where you just get the information magically.He doesn't need to constantly have eyes locked on Homelander's eyes for his Foresight to take effect. He just needs to see his gaze for a few seconds, maybe minutes, to analyze it, and then he'll be able to predict where he's going to aim his lasers. The entire point of Foresight on Kuroki's level is that they stop needing to even see the opponent to counter. It's probably gonna be that easy.
You misunderstand my argument. I never said he would magically become aware of Heat Vision. He'd only be aware of it once Homelander uses it. I never said he would magically be aware of Heat Vision— all I said, and have said, is that he'll be able to dodge it through his read on Homelander's gaze once it comes out.Except that would logically be able to anticipate things that you're aware of. Guns or Physical combat are one thing because that would be something he's very familiar with. Heat Vision does not exist in Kengan, unless there's something I don't know. Analytical Prediction is based off of things you know, it's not Divination where you just get the information magically.
Again, we're arguing in circles about semantics. I brought up this exact point in my long breakdown. Even with me not recalling Kuroki stopping that bullet, I still came down on the side that Kuroki would be able to weave through Homelander's heat vision once it he sees it.You misunderstand my argument. I never said he would magically become aware of Heat Vision. He'd only be aware of it once Homelander uses it. I never said he would magically be aware of Heat Vision— all I said, and have said, is that he'll be able to dodge it through his read on Homelander's gaze once it comes out.
If you don't want to "argue in circles" then simply don't say anything and ignore me. I can clarify a point you blatantly misunderstood without worrying about what you do or don't want to argue.Again, we're arguing in circles about semantics. I brought up this exact point in my long breakdown. Even with me not recalling Kuroki stopping that bullet, I still came down on the side that Kuroki would be able to weave through Homelander's heat vision once it he sees it.
Whatever, if it stops your pontificating.Snip
Note: I have zero stakes on this match up whatsoever.Going to do some rough calcs here. Assuming that one pyre is hot as a campfire, it can be around 600F - 2,000 F (Source). There are three of them so...600*3 = 1,800F or 2,000*3 = 6,000F. Keep in mind the pyre behind Kuroki is far bigger than the two in front, so its probably higher. I don't know if I did the math correctly, but if we go by high end, Kuroki can no sell this.
Thanks bro. So, yeah. Ignore the calc.Note: I have zero stakes on this match up whatsoever.
That is not how heat works my friend, having multiple fires doesn't magically raise the temperature by the number of fires. A fire, or any source of heat in general, cannot heat something up beyond its own source temperature. Having 3 fires of 2000 degrees flames is just that, 3 fires with a temp of 2000 degrees.
Do you have any idea how absurd forest fires would be if heat worked like that? Wouldn't even be a forest fire, everything would just become plasma.
Add five 2000 degrees fires and the temp would reach the surface temperature of the Sun.
That's crazy.Whatever, if it stops your pontificating.
Well, that's sign I need to leave this 'til tomorrow and cool my own head.That's crazy.![]()
Actually addressed this before. Homelander...might actually takes those hits better than even people in the Kenganverse. His internal tissues are just as tough as his outsides, which is something that straight up doesn't exist in Kuroki's verse.I would also like to point out that Kuroki's physical blows aren't just like...normal strikes. As stated on his profile, they land so effectively that they directly damage the internal organs, causing functional decline and absurd amounts of pain.
Even without his AP advantage or Spear Hand, Kuroki's strikes would pretty quickly crumple Homelander. Especially if he strikes his heart.
Aw naw you right, forgot the resistance to internal strikes on his profile.Actually addressed this before. Homelander...might actually takes those hits better than even people in the Kenganverse. His internal tissues are just as tough as his outsides, which is something that straight up doesn't exist in Kuroki's verse.
Unless, someone knows something I don't. Please share if so, I'm not up to date with Kengan Omega.
Would note that while Kuroki's LS isn't necessarily that good, his bones are strong enough that a Class M Ohma can't break them even when actively trying to do so, so Homelander can't really damage Kuroki with grappling.) Homelander Tries To Blitz and Pummel Kuroki- He tried to do the same thing as Maeve, and she was able to handle him with her Class 25 LS fine despite him "getting serious" after his blood was drawn. It would even be worse with Kuroki as he has decades of CQC and far higher AP.
Azontr beat me to part of it but I'll still throw my points to add on.1) Homelander Tries To Blitz and Pummel Kuroki- He tried to do the same thing as Maeve, and she was able to handle him with her Class 25 LS fine despite him "getting serious" after his blood was drawn. It would even be worse with Kuroki as he has decades of CQC and far higher AP.
Still it is an accepted Calc, and it does apply to Kuroki since he beat the Stronger Version of the Guy.Unfortunately not yet on the profiles, since we need a verse-wide scaling revision that's probably not coming for a while.