Sun Wukong VS Konpaku Yomu (Lego Monkie Kid VS Touhou Project) 1/1/0

[Not_Icarus]

Sun Wukong with his staff and no items for Konpaku Yomu

Sun Wukong: 1 (Not_Icarus)

Konpaku Yomu: 1 (Speedblitzer50)

Inconclusive:

 

[BLS]

Speed unequal, doesn't Yomu blitz?

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Speed unequal, doesn't Yomu blitz?

I’m assuming op is using infinite speed for wukong, but isn’t he still massively outhaxed

 

[Not_Icarus]

He has clones, superior lifting strength, multiple types of immortality, massive skills and a much more versatile weapon than Konpaku so this should be interesting

 

[Not_Icarus]

Bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

How many universes Sun Wukong scale?

 

[Deidalius]

lol, wasting no time to make a new thread haha

 

[Not_Icarus]

Countless hundreds

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Countless hundreds

What’s the cosmology?

 

[Not_Icarus]

A single universe is 4 realms which includes the mortal world, heaven, hell and Li Jing's prison

 

[Ubdon]

Yomu wins cuz idk she female

 

[Not_Icarus]

Well at least it's not someone asking about the scale difference for once lol

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Youmu has Spirit manipulation, and that gives her soul manipulation and absorption, so she should absorb Wukong's soul with her attacks since he doesn't resist this.

 

[Not_Icarus]

Sun Wukong has erased his name from the book of death which gives him type 5 immortality as his soul no longer yields to death and his lifeforce cannot be taken away by anyone anymore. And tbh soul stuff in Touhou works by beating up your opponent overtime like how Alex Mercer from Prototype can't instantly absorb other bioforms on his level immediately. So these 2 will still scrap against each other regardless to see who wins.

I'll count that as a vote on Yomu's favor though if you say so.

 

[Deidalius]

Yomu wins cuz idk she female

If you were brave, you'd say Youmu loses because she's a female.

Sun Wukong has erased his name from the book of death which gives him type 5 immortality as his soul no longer yields to death and his lifeforce cannot be taken away by anyone anymore. And tbh soul stuff in Touhou works by beating up your opponent overtime like how Alex Mercer from Prototype can't instantly absorb other bioforms on his level immediately. So these 2 will still scrap against each other regardless to see who wins.

I'll count that as a vote on Yomu's favor though if you say so.

Actually, how tf does Soul manipulation interact with Deathless immortality? I am curious now

 

[Speedblitzer50]

But his soul is not dying, it is not being destroyed, just absorbed by what remains but could no longer do anything, so it still works

And even if the soul thing works over time, a couple of attacks like a burst of danmaku should be enough

Youmu FRA

 

[Not_Icarus]

Vote counted.

I have to say though that this isn't that decisive. Yomu still has to hit him a lot and Sun Wukong can clone himself as many times as he wants and use his staff to clear out her danmaku when she tries to spam that against him.

His skill isn't something to just dismiss even with someone like Yomu's level.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

can wukong clone his soul too? If not, then it would be enough to absorb the soul of the original and that's it.

 

[Not_Icarus]

No but good luck with that lol

 

[Speedblitzer50]

If you were brave, you'd say Youmu loses because she's a female.

Actually, how tf does Soul manipulation interact with Deathless immortality? I am curious now

Deathless characters cannot die in the traditional way, but if you absorb their souls practically their bodies are "dying", but their "core" is now no longer in their bodies so they could not do anything

And having your soul absorbed is not at all a traditional way of "dying" so they would be defeated in this way

 

[Speedblitzer50]

No but good luck with that lol

Youmu throws danmaku in all directions, they would easily hit all the clones (and Youmu could also attack him before he even clones himself)

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Deathless characters cannot die in the traditional way, but if you absorb their souls practically their bodies are "dying", but their "core" is now no longer in their bodies so they could not do anything

And having your soul absorbed is not at all a traditional way of "dying" so they would be defeated in this way

Do deathless characters automatically have low godly regen?

 

[Not_Icarus]

The sheer amount of clones and size of the jingu bang would easily counteract the danmaku as even the shockwave of the staff can affect an entire solar system

 

[Not_Icarus]

It's also very unlikely that Sun Wukong gets jumped by Yomu because it's Sun Wukong among all people who easily fights entire skilled armies and groups by himself because of his skill, speed and power

 

[Speedblitzer50]

No

If their bodies are destroyed they will still be "alive" but will not be able to do anything (unless they have regeneration)

Absorbing their souls should work if they are the "core" of his "life" unless that character is said to have no soul or can live without one.

Do deathless characters automatically have low godly regen?

 

[Speedblitzer50]

The sheer amount of clones and size of the jingu bang would easily counteract the danmaku as even the shockwave of the staff can affect an entire solar system

In his profile wukong has a range of several kilometers with his jingu bang, nothing that affects the solar system as you say

 

[Not_Icarus]

Even several kilometers are more than enough to nullify the danmaku. The page just didn't show it and it was the basis for the old Low 4-C calc before everyone got upgraded to 2-C.



This was done by an early MK who is much inferior to Sun Wukong

 

[Speedblitzer50]

It's also very unlikely that Sun Wukong gets jumped by Yomu because it's Sun Wukong among all people who easily fights entire skilled armies and groups by himself because of his skill, speed and power

Youmu also knows how to fight, dodge hundreds of danmaku, etc.

 

[Not_Icarus]

Yeah but that doesn't mean it trivializes Sun Wukong. Even her moon slash can be blocked by the jingu bang as it's powerful and large enough to cover Sun Wukong's body and more

 

[Not_Icarus]

The lifting strength differences also don't make it favorable for Yomu in close combat given Sun Wukong can just stop all of her movements once at least one of his clones restrains her from doing any moves

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Even several kilometers are more than enough to nullify the danmaku. The page just didn't show it and it was the basis for the old Low 4-C calc before everyone got upgraded to 2-C.



This was done by an early MK who is much inferior to Sun Wukong

Keep in mind that even wukong can be attacked by youmu before he does that, it doesn't necessarily have to be wukong who attacks first. I will continue tomorrow because I have to go to sleep lmao

 

[Not_Icarus]

Yomu doesn't have auto hit or at least auto hit that can't be blocked

 

[Not_Icarus]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention. Sun Wukong can also just conjure magic energy chains constructs around her to stop Yomu without ever needing to physically stop her himself or with his clones. He did this against MK during their latest fight. Afterwards he can either kill her or seal her underneath a mountain like he did with Demon Bull King. Said sealing is magical and required someone worthy to unseal the mountain by picking up Sun Wukong's staff from above the mountain peak.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Youmu can also block Wukong with forcefields and reflect his attacks, and she can also dodge him - she won't stand still.

She can also become invulnerable via slash of eternity

 

[Not_Icarus]

Sun Wukong has invulnerability too scaling from MK, so I don't think it'll matter much for both tbh. It's not like Sun Wukong will just stand still too given how rapid and slippery his fighting style is. The skill gap is comparable

Really it the fight comes down to a slug fest on who gets killed/absorbed/sealed first.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Sun Wukong has invulnerability too scaling from MK, so I don't think it'll matter much for both tbh. It's not like Sun Wukong will just stand still too given how rapid and slippery his fighting style is. The skill gap is comparable

Really it the fight comes down to a slug fest on who gets killed/absorbed/sealed first.

If both of them can become invulnerable, then physical attacks are of no use here lol so this is a hax battle

Youmu has better range with Matsuyoi-Reflecting Satellite Slash and she can also block wukong with forcefields and reflect his attacks, not only sun wukong is the only one who can block attacks here

 

[Not_Icarus]

Given their fighting styles which favors melee a lot, the far superior size of Yomu's sword doesn't actually make a practical difference much. Their small sizes already makes even Sun Wukong's staff more than enough for battle sweeping and defense.

Sun Wukong's response to force fields is just smashing through them like he did against Lady Bone Demon. The force fields while not invincible, does give her some small breathing room though.

Sun Wukong has the better means of ending the fight here via restraining Yomu either by magic (chains spawns right next to her) or physicals which then leads him to sealing her.

 

[Not_Icarus]

Oh yeah Yomu also loses in extended weapon tug of war clashes if they lock together weapons too long given her inferior lifting strength. So she can only parry and deflect the Ruyi Jingu Bang whenever they clash.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Are you saying that Youmu's enormous range advantage is of no use while Wukong's several kilometers are? because that's what it seems

and youmu not only attacks up close with her sword, she also has ranged attacks like the danmaku for example, and her Matsuyoi-Reflecting Satellite Slash that gives her a huge advantage in range

 

[Not_Icarus]

Basically they won't fight at a universal distance. Nobody in Touhou or Journey to the West (Lego) fights that vast of a range. So the range is practically even. Especially with how honorable and prideful both Yomu and Wukong are as martial artists.

Not like Sun Wukong is defenseless against those as well. Again, he has the staff, clones and also various transformations to make dodging and closing distances better for himself.