CM1 is just a broad term for concept that independent of reality, something that we, vsbw users created and i will repeat again, independent =/= superiority. There is no most logical explanation here, cause i already gave actual example of why independent concept doesn't mean said concept superior to what it govern
The CM Type 1 would not need to directly affect The Concept of Nothingness if the Concept is only type 2, and could instead affect what it's bounded to, if it's bounded to something nonexistent, then sure the Type 1 cant affect either without feats, but if it's bounded to something in reality, it can be affected
I mean, depend, since the NEP guy lack concept aspect, CM can't interact with him, but some fiction characters have feat capable of applying concept into objects, person, etc....these kind of characters can definitely doing something to NEP guy who lack concept. So it is depending on available feats
I editted my comment, but anyway like i said, depend on what kind of feats the guy with CM1 have been showing, if he has feat applying concept to objects, persons, etc...... then he can force a concept on the NEP guy, make him now do not lacking a concept anymore, but if CM1 guy have no such feat then yeah he can't do anything
those arent my own, thats just how concept type 2 works, it can be affected indirectly by what it’s bound to
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ANSWER THIS QUESTION PLEASE
Character A has 8-D soul crush Character B has 5-D high godly regeneration Will Character A bypass the high godly regeneration? question2 basically character A has type 1 concept hax, has no feats of interacting with NEP 2 aspect 2 is fighting B who has nonexistent physiology type 2 aspect 2...vsbattles.com
Was this scenario even taken into account, it's not directly manipulating the Nonexistent Concept here
It’s not? Type 2 Concepts can be manipulated without directly interacting with them
He mean that rather than directly interacting with concept, you can indirectly affect the concept by affect what the concept tied to, since Type 2 mean the concept itself is dependent on something, if you affect said thing, it will create a chain reaction that alter the concept
Doesnt the concept still paradoxically exist, like what the NEP page says “Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.'” and would still be tied to something
Yeah thats for nothingness but what about lacking something the concept of something not inherently nonexistent
unless the guy is NEP Nature 3, otherwise it make no sense. The paradoxical part is just mean that normally nothingness mean, nothing exist, however still some how existing, it have almost nothing on aspect
the.................what?????, now you make no sense bruhh
If it somehow still exist, and counts as a concept, shouldnt it still be tied to whatever it’s linked to, also also if it is a Type 3, is it possible?
Like the concept is tied to nothingness in this situation, what if its something else
mood
if the concept still exist, then the character in question will never lack it in the first place, which mean his nonexistence aspect is wrong, unless he is NEP Nature Type 3, which allow for paradoxical existence even with the aspects
no, it is impossible, concept type 3 tied with what it describes, concept type 2 of circle describe the fundamental principle of circle, and also tied to said circle, concept type 2 of nothingness describe properties of nothingness and also tied to it, you can't have a concept type 2 that somehow tied to a completely different thing that it not describe and govern over, the only concept that is possible in such a way in our current system is concept type 3, as it is lesser realist concept, it is tied to what it describe and govern, at the same time it is a part of a larger reality
Surprising how M went from not so being quite broken ish (but still fairly powerful) to becoming pretty broken and even abstractically hard to affect lol.
WUT. Really?
More specifically, neither I nor Zenkai want to write the CRTs ourselves. If other people are interested, I can provide arguments, comment on the thread, and post relevant feats/statements, but I don't want to be the OP.
Bruhh, with NEP2 even if the character do not lack concept, CM1 user can't interact with it without feat bruhh, you aksed a very obvious question
Wut??
GoW is going to have less hax than DB goku at this rate
To my understanding, the DBH cosmology is still composite, and I believe there is still a hyper-timeline based on the other universe in the timeline.oh wtf
Spaces in Times Dragon Ball revision
Continuation of this thread, will make the arguments very clear now with a voting poll from the beginning, full disclosure though, if this becomes as much of a mess and flood and the last thread i will ask for this to be closed and make a staff thread instead, clear? ok, so for the thread itself...
No more 5-D DB???
This will replace the strongest non smurf....
6-D is being made part of 1-C, so this list will basically be transferred over to the strongest Low 1-C list since currently all the top Low 1-C people are 6D
Bready sure that Gao, and Ren aren't 6-D
Well he should be above Davoth at the very least, considering he can't do anything when bills decides that the creator of the multiverse, is going to get demoted to party balloons
But yeah, I agree, doesn't help the wonky scaling, and pseudo science this wiki loves to use
Fr, the only 2 people who will stay on the Low 1-C list are Gao Chuan (who has High 1-A hax) and Joker (who is IIRC 3-8 layers into 1-A in terms of hax)
