Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

[KLOL506]

I see, where would his endgame ragnarok/Valhalla key be placed on this list ?

Lower than his God/Hope self. Ragnarok/Valhalla Kratos lacks a lot of the hax, range and versatility his Greek self had, but has greater battle intelligence and wisdom and has all the resistances barring those provided by Hope.

 

[Robo432343]

Then it's an incon.

Can kratos die from becoming too old

 

[KLOL506]

Can kratos die from becoming too old

Is this a serious question...

 

[Robo432343]

Is this a serious question...

No

do u want kratos vs spawn speed unequal added to the pages

 

[Robo432343]

The Devourer (Epic Battle Fantasy)

The Devourer is a monster summoned from another universe by the Cosmic Gigalith and an army of Cosmic Monoliths. Despite having just appeared in front of Matt and the gang, the Devourer has erased and restarted the Epic Battle Fantasy world four times prior to the world of Epic Battle Fantasy 5...

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I'll nominate the Devourer some place in between 11th and 12th

i put him on 13th place

 

[LazerDim8000]

Lower than his God/Hope self. Ragnarok/Valhalla Kratos lacks a lot of the hax, range and versatility his Greek self had, but has greater battle intelligence and wisdom and has all the resistances barring those provided by Hope.

I “Hope” that changes in the next game.

 

[Tanin_iver]

Can kratos die from becoming too old

Well he has Immo 1 from God key onwards so maybe not

 

[Robo432343]

maybe spawn can keep BFR'ing him for an eternity
is that still incon?

 

[LazerDim8000]

maybe spawn can keep BFR'ing him for an eternity
is that still incon?

Bruh

 

[Brogeefrong]

PS why is the creator at 3 when the other uninteractable like Shiva and Krishna dropped to 10 and 11

 

[Robo432343]

PS why is the creator at 3 when the other uninteractable like Shiva and Krishna dropped to 10 and 11

shiva and krishna aren't top 5 anymore coz they lose to characters below them

 

[Brogeefrong]

shiva and krishna aren't top 5 anymore coz they lose to characters below them

like how, by profiles Shiva seems to be similar to the creator

 

[Robo432343]

like how, by profiles Shiva seems to be similar to the creator

no
in a lot of matches shiva would end up running out of stamina and lose
he doesn't really have any noticeable hax and is just an intangibility merchant

 

[KLOL506]

Well he has Immo 1 from God key onwards so maybe not

Kratos has Types 1-4 and 8 in Hope key, he has all the powers of his Godhead and then some.

 

[Brogeefrong]

no
in a lot of matches shiva would end up running out of stamina and lose

But he would still be in a TD/NEP state, unless he loses it when that happens, which idk

 

[KLOL506]

WTF even is this list anymore.

 

[RanHover60]

Goku victim list

 

[Fezzih_007]

Goku victim list

You mean, this one?

Tier 1 and 2 characters that beat Xeno Goku or vice versa

Sequel for this thread Since that thread is kinda outdated now, remaking sounds like the worst idea someone could make. So I did. Well, this is more because someone said Goku Solos all fictions, and since that includes my favorite verse Backyardigans, i got little angry. Is the same rules as...

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[RanHover60]

You mean, this one?

Tier 1 and 2 characters that beat Xeno Goku or vice versa

Sequel for this thread Since that thread is kinda outdated now, remaking sounds like the worst idea someone could make. So I did. Well, this is more because someone said Goku Solos all fictions, and since that includes my favorite verse Backyardigans, i got little angry. Is the same rules as...

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Nah it was a joke

 

[Robo432343]

But he would still be in a TD/NEP state, unless he loses it when that happens, which idk

Let’s try it this way
Shiva and kratos for example would be Incon because of TD NEP but there is no way shiva is sharing a spot with him because he would lose to characters below
I think that’s how this list works

 

[RanHover60]

Let’s try it this way
Shiva and kratos for example would be Incon because of TD NEP but there is no way shiva is sharing a spot with him because he would lose to characters below
I think that’s how this list works

Wait so what if there's some mofo who has the specific abilities to solo spot number one or a spot in the top three but gets folded by everyone else. Is this thread ranked by how many characters each they can beat or someway else?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Let’s try it this way
Shiva and kratos for example would be Incon because of TD NEP but there is no way shiva is sharing a spot with him because he would lose to characters below
I think that’s how this list works

is it cause his TD doesnt cover information or

 

[Remus1998]

@Brogeefrong conceptual high godly, not history high godly, one he can regenerate from, the other he doesn’t have any feats for so he’s gonna die really badly.

Wait, so characters with High-Godly can now only regenerate from the fundamental aspect that they've shown feats for?

 

[KLOL506]

Wait, so characters with High-Godly can now only regenerate from the fundamental aspect that they've shown feats for?

Yes. At least, that's what the consensus has been for a while.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Remus1998 Due to how fiction differs a lot between what's more fundamental, concepts, info, narrative or history, we treat them as their own separate cases, hence the note under High godly that says it needs to be specified what type of regen the user has in the first place. So one type of high godly doesn't automatically mean you can withstand the other levels of erasure without any evidence.

 

[Robo432343]

Uh
Can DBH characters still interact with AE type 1?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Uh
Can DBH characters still interact with AE type 1?

Yeah they can interact with Infinite Zamasu who has AE

 

[OriginFox]

does Goku's "passive AP stomp" aura thing negate high godly regen?
or is that another hax

negates regen

 

[Remus1998]

Oh shit
If planck’s CRT gets accepted then it’s going to be even more difficult for sonic to Incon Kratos

Ok now what?

 

[Planck69]

yo Planck i think kratos vs demigra might be inconclusive
Demigra's starting move is existence erasure which will erase the entire cosmology while almost everything kratos has would kill demigra

Unless he can EE concepts, this affects Kratos how?

 

[Planck69]

if literally everything is erased then shouldn't that include Kratos?
even <Subspace> which is a dimensional world devoid of the concepts of time and space was erased

demigra will end up dying due to the CM 1 and kratos will also end up dying because the entire cosmology is getting deleted

No? He's acausal and conceptually invulnerable, there's actually no reason for him to be touched.

 

[KLOL506]

The Great Evils and Hope don't give a shit about pantheons being destroyed, heck- they predate the Greek Pantheon (Even affecting the Primordials who themselves predate creation, space and time) and are its very bane, threatening to destroy it and everyone else in it completely with nothing inside being able to even come close to their level of power. Hope Kratos is the last person you'd expect to give a damn about his pantheon getting nuked, especially since he threatened to kill Ascended Athena with it, who exists even higher than all the gods.

 

[KLOL506]

question
what happens if a 5D HDE guy was going to erase kratos's dimensionality? would it not do anything because of CM invulnerability?

You'd have to get through Hope first to get at Kratos, so it'd prolly end up doing nothing.

 

[Planck69]

question
what happens if a 5D HDE guy was going to erase kratos's dimensionality? would it not do anything because of CM invulnerability?

Why would it do anything? This is like asking if a 3-dimensional guy can erase a concept cause he's 3-D. Like what?

 

[Planck69]

Oh shit
If planck’s CRT gets accepted then it’s going to be even more difficult for sonic to Incon Kratos

My soul one?

 

[CloverDragon03]

if your CRT gets accepted can xenoblade qualify for this list?

No because my CRT proposes a new cosmology that'll keep them at 6-D. If the cosmology blog gets rejected and they go down to 5-D, though, then yeah

 

[Robo432343]

No because my CRT proposes a new cosmology that'll keep them at 6-D. If the cosmology blog gets rejected and they go down to 5-D, though, then yeah

i thought they would be having a 5D key and a 6D one

 

[Robo432343]

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hey glass
you know how you accepted axl low having acausality 5 in this thread? its not on the profile but do i still use it for this list?

 

[Ikelaggan]

hey glass
you know how you accepted axl low having acausality 5 in this thread? its not on the profile but do i still use it for this list?

I was the one who nominated for that and it's a "in the works for now" type of thing for the whole verse of guilty gear.

 

[Ikelaggan]

Where do you think current guilty gear should be seeing how they have 12 layers for magic

Magic (guilty gear)

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I have verse P&A page in the works but it's like more countless layers at the highest for stuff like the cube and the tome of origin but most of anyone post overture that wasn't in there is barely getting 1 layer if they had a random Valentine encounter.