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[Planck69]

Kratos' invulnerability seems way different. But maybe it's just me.

Kratos is empowered and protected by Hope down to his soul and concept. Zeus has conceptual sealing, destruction and can adapt to have his powers surpass resistance to conceptual destruction and magic, with Fear being beyond even that, but all of that is completely futile in front of Hope.

I assume Sonic is more of an aura but I could be very wrong.

 

[Greenshifter]

I assume Sonic is more of an aura but I could be very wrong.

I could just call what Kratos has a “Hope” aura though

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Kratos is empowered and protected by Hope down to his soul and concept. Zeus has conceptual sealing, destruction and can adapt to have his powers surpass resistance to conceptual destruction and magic but all of that is completely futile in front of Hope.

I assume Sonic is more of an aura but I could be very wrong.

So it's completely different. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Greenshifter]

Yeah, I guess. What's your opinion on it,under VBW standards?

Haven’t studied up on VSBW ND that much but chances are that since it’s so easy to get, anything that goes beyond its scope will work. So time beyond time and 5D vs 4D probably still works.

 

[Greenshifter]

So it's completely different

Is it? Sure maybe all of Sonic’s aspects aren’t as explicitly protected as Kratos’ but the whole protected by X concept thing is still applicable

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Is it? Sure maybe Sonic’s aspects aren’t as explicitly protected as Kratos’ but the whole protected by X concept thing is still applicable

Perhaps? Kratos' stuff is based on his very essence being that way, though. Sonic's isn't.

 

[Greenshifter]

Perhaps? Kratos' stuff is based on his very essence being that way, though. Sonic's isn't.

Yes, I suppose Hope did reside within him so that would make Sonic “Diet Kratos”.

 

[Greenshifter]

As a general rule of thumb I suggest that things which have to traverse the distance between Sonic and his opponent won’t work and things which don’t, will work. With the exception of stuff like higher-D (in comparison to Chaos Energy’s ND) attacks.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

As a general rule of thumb I suggest that things which have to traverse the distance between Sonic and his opponent won’t work and things which don’t, will work. With the exception of stuff like higher-D (in comparison to Chaos Energy’s ND) attacks.

Expect me to pull a "Freeze GG" argument sooner or later,then.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Expect me to pull a "Freeze GG" argument sooner or later,then.

Also imma pull a trick on ya @Greenshifter

Prove Sonic's aura has defensive properties like Ki.

 

[Greenshifter]

Also imma pull a trick on ya @Greenshifter

Kek

Prove Sonic's aura has defensive properties like Ki.

Forcefield creation should be on the page and it’s something that automatically happens. There’s also Sonic’s durability being boosted by Chaos Energy.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Kek

Forcefield creation should be on the page and it’s something that automatically happens. There’s also Sonic’s durability being boosted by Chaos Energy.

Alr.

 

[Livinmeme]

Now that I think off...Why is Blazblue in first? Yes, funny infinite layers, but I think the thing that has infinite layers isn't a passive, so they die to things they don't resist (Yes, that means Blazblue loses to Bugs, Arale and sigh great kitsune)

 

[Livinmeme]

it is passive

Someone told me in the Amat vs AO thread that it wasn't

 

[Reiner04]

Krishna (Shree Krishna TV show)

Vasudev, a noble and Devaki, the princess of Mathura had just been married. As they were about to leave for Vasudev's home, Kamsa, Devaki's corrupted brother decided to drive their chariot. Just then, a divine voice announced that the eighth child of Devaki would be the one to kill Kamsa. Evil...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Reiner04]

Krishna (Shree Krishna TV show)

Vasudev, a noble and Devaki, the princess of Mathura had just been married. As they were about to leave for Vasudev's home, Kamsa, Devaki's corrupted brother decided to drive their chariot. Just then, a divine voice announced that the eighth child of Devaki would be the one to kill Kamsa. Evil...

vsbattles.fandom.com

This guy should be above or Equals to Shiva.

 

[Robo432343]

This guy should be above or Equals to Shiva.

Shiva loses because he will end up running out of stamina..

 

[Reiner04]

Shiva loses because he will end up running out of stamina..

Welp, I'm dumb for other reasons.

 

[Robo432343]

Welp, I'm dumb for other reasons.

I think Krishna can Incon with characters from blazblue because of his acausality type 5

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Welp, I'm dumb for other reasons.

Reiner,we already know that.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

i would rather trust a staff member than a normal member bro

Average Robo L

 

[DivineAura44]

i would rather trust a staff member than a normal member bro

Just trust me, I'd never mislead you

 

[Brogeefrong]

it is passive

Even if it is passive wouldnt it still be incon with the characters with Passive Plot Manipulation

 

[Reiner04]

Reiner,we already know that.

But still smarter than u, that is.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

But still smarter than u, that is.

You got a long way to go, kiddo. Just sayin'

 

[Reiner04]

You got a long way to go, kiddo. Just sayin'

Definitely, less than ya.

 

[DivineAura44]

You got a long way to go, kiddo. Just sayin'

Is he smarter than you, Sensei?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Is he smarter than you, Sensei?

Nah, I'd win.

 

[Reiner04]

Is he smarter than you, Sensei?

That's obvious.

 

[Reiner04]

Nah, I'd win.

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[Robo432343]

Even if it is passive wouldnt it still be incon with the characters with Passive Plot Manipulation

u need feats of plot hax interacting with NEP
there is no way woody woodpecker for example is beating/incons against blazblue just coz he has passive plot hax

 

[Greenshifter]

But still smarter than u, that is.

Press X for doubt

 

[Greenshifter]

You got a long way to go, kiddo. Just sayin'

Definitely, less than ya.

Till you get to MY level muhahaha

 

[Reiner04]

Press X for doubt

I've anything but doubt I've not.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Till you get to MY level muhahaha

Do I have to remind you of your Ls against me, Green? Don't make me

 

[Brogeefrong]

u need feats of plot hax interacting with NEP
there is no way woody woodpecker for example is beating/incons against blazblue just coz he has passive plot hax

Thats only the case for if they have a NEP aspect for their narrative

 

[ShakeResounding]

@Brogeefrong Please stop ripping out certain comments I make and using it for the purposes of this thread, broski Especially if you're gonna treat what I say about Sonic as authoritative, I don't think that gives me a very good look.

At least now I know what the random questions you ask in the Sonic General are about

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

@Brogeefrong Please stop ripping out certain comments I make and using it for the purposes of this thread, broski Especially if you're gonna treat what I say about Sonic as authoritative, I don't think that gives me a very good look.

At least now I know what the random questions you ask in the Sonic General are about

He just wanted to cook, Shake. Me and Green just burned down his kitchen.

Cooking is for masters like you,what can I say.

 

[Eseseso]

Dragon Ball Heroes is about to lose a good chunk of hax, among which is their Concept hax, so they should be below Sora at least.

 

[Greenshifter]

Do I have to remind you of your Ls against me, Green? Don't make me

No... Ottavio-Senpai