Street Fighter Big Revision. Part 3

[BlackDarkness679]

Speaking of guides also, anything in these whether english or japanese that might give more stuff regarding their stats?

 

[SamanPatou]

I remember finding some old stuff on Internet Archive, I should take another look.

Also, if Matt has the full guide it could be useful, but I'd prefer to look for and discuss this stuff once we finish the CRT, so I can apply everything.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Do we need further input on this?

 

[SamanPatou]

Yes, I believe we need at least @TISSG7Redgrave and @Matthew_Schroeder's opinion (Matt replied, but I don't know if he agrees with the changes).

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Wouldnt this count as both attack speed and maybe combat speed (?) since he creates it with his hands movement

He's moving his arm fast enough to create a sonic boom. That'd require moving his arms faster than sound.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

The other thing i can add is at least for akuma his range is possible since he did punch an island until it sank in alpha 2 or his ending in 2nd impact where kongou kuretsuzan spread through the ayers rock but for projectiles yeah i can see that. The LS makes sense.

I guess we can keep Q by virtue of that but its weird so rip.

The assorted stuff other than the akuma one i mentioned seems fine.

 

[SamanPatou]

Uh, I didn't know destruction of stuff through punches applied to range.

Should it be range via vibration manipulation or something? As he can't punch and kick the air to reach far enemies, but can still spread the force on surfaces.

 

[Armorchompy]

I've seen it added to some profiles but it's not a universal thing, definitely should specify it's through shockwaves or whatever tho

 

[SamanPatou]

@TISSG7Redgrave Do you think it would be good for Akuma to have range through Shockwave Creation?

@Matthew_Schroeder What do you think of the op? Does it look fine to you?

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

For me that makes sense.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Dont know what to say about range via physical strike, as its in way dependable to DC of a character

 

[SamanPatou]

You mean destruction capacity?

This would scale only to Akuma and would be applicable only to him punching a surface and spreading the energy through it, he would still have standard melee range normally and wouldn't reach anyone by punching the air or such.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Seems a bit weird to give range via how much area they messed up, but thats just me

 

[SamanPatou]

I think that, realistically speaking, someone wouldn't be able to cause so much destruction without the ability to spread the force of their punches. Like, normally a 5-B character could punch the ground and just vaporize an area around his fist, but not cause the planet to crumble, unless they have the ability to spread the impact.
At least this is what I got.

@DarkDragonMedeus and @Armorchompy know this better than me.

 

[Armorchompy]

It's kind of the opposite, you're right that not all the force would go to the planet but I'm fairly sure any sort of attack thrown at that strength would cause incredible amounts of destruction, so an island-busting punch destroying an island isn't too unbelievable i think

 

[SamanPatou]

If it's a normal consequence of him just being strong, then I'm not sure if it should be listed.

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, most characters don't show this level of range, so maybe? Idk, if he doesn't use it in combat we probably don't need to

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, it's common in fiction that plenty of characters have the energy to destroy, but are unable to spread it into wide AoE. Which while that doesn't exactly follow the laws of physics; it's still the way fiction portrays superhuman striking strength or Ki blasts; but man made explosives and what not are the opposite.

 

[SamanPatou]

Then, would it be worthy to note that Akuma can perform AoE destruction with his punches, or is it just a natural consequence?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Im inclined to the latter imo

 

[SamanPatou]

Then, would it be worthy to note that Akuma can perform AoE destruction with his punches, or is it just a natural consequence?

@DarkDragonMedeus What do you think of this?

I think this is the last thing to settle, then we're done.

@Matthew_Schroeder Is it all good for you in the op?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Considering the punch was nuking the island, it would naturally be considered the shockwave of his punch also covered the island; so his range via shockwave would scale from his AP in that instance yes.

 

[SamanPatou]

Thank you, with this we are done, everything as been set accondingly.

Matt seems to be ok with this, but he didn't say it specifically, should I ask him again?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Pretty sure he will answer the same thing most likely, dont need to

 

[SamanPatou]

Then we are done with this thread and almost totally with the stats. I'll have this closed and then I'll make the quick one for the new city-busting calc to replace the previous result.

Thanks everyone for helping and giving their opinions.