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You will have to ask Azathoth about this, but it seems speculative to me from a glance.

Anyway, I will lock the profiles.
 
Nah, I just haven't asked him yet. Been doing other stuff :T

We'll get back to it and whatnot~

Plus, I'm trying to get my hands on something currently which may, if what I've heard is correct, be more concrete about the "infinite dimensions" thing. (Star Trek Encylopedia v4)
 
More on my mind currently is the fact that Q and his respective forms may need Fate Manipulation for specifically why the end of this video : Q reveals that his Trial on Humanity is him guiding Picard's destiny to discover new planes of existence above his own, due to Picard's 4-D meddling in "All Good Things". <==== because of that, I also think Picard should get Extrasensory Perception for All Good Things when he showed he could think 4-dimensionally.
 
I can't think of many times where Q was challenged by anything, except maybe when he was fighting the Continuum or when Q and Quinn had their little game. Probably the only ones I can think of are like resistance to BFR and Reality Warping (due to being able to counteract each other when they do this), but there could be others, like we could say he has resistance to Technological Manipulation (as he can't be scanned), resistance to Mind Manipulation and Telepathy (As Deanna Troi can't read him), and resistance to Cosmic Awareness/Enhanced Senses, as he can deceive other Q.

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About that, only Possibly High 1-B is even being considered, due to the additional evidence already in "limitless dimensions" as well as infinite subspace layers. I am also trying to get my hands on a resource book which seemingly proves infinite dimensions beyond a shadow of a doubt
 
we're still gathering info about it. ST verse may very well be 1-A as the God tiers had created many multiverses.
 
@Crzer ... Creating many multiverses =/= 1-A tho . Only prediating the concept of time & space, beyond concept of time and space , Possibly transduality nature [ Possibly considering there has been argument that transduality in-verse =/= 1-A ] , etc. Secondly, whose getting 1-A ? Because i'm certain it isn't any character mentioned in the first post.
 
That's only the non-canon Trek though. Canon Trek so far only has 18 dimensions confirmed, with a likely 26 and even more likely countless number. The only higher it could get IMO is High 1-B, although one could argue Guinan's Nexus form as Possibly 1-A too since she very likely used that as leverage against Q here and the Nexus transcends the concepts of space and time, with Q very likely referring to the Nexus event when talking about the past.
 
That's not the only reason Them would be 1-A, Seed. They do in fact pre-date all concepts and are beyond the comprehension of even the Q, who see Q as less than Q see humanity. It's very similar to the Choushin and the D's in Tenchi Muyo, via perspectives.
 
Hmm.... I'm not completely understanding that conversation. Can you simplify it ?

We've had non-canon being used though Aeyu. If Non-Canon Original Characters of Star Trek have 1-A Feats... I'm certain we can have them as pages here unless said feats belong to Non-Canon variations of characters that didn't originate from the Non-Canon.

I see.. My bad then.
 
ST verse includes the prime universe and j j abrahms kelvin universe, which is the canon verse. then there is the apocrypha verse which technically approved which could be considered another multiverse. That is somewhat the cosmology of the ST verse.
 
@Seed. Crzer

I've been thinking about making a blog explaining Trek tiers and the division between canon and non-canon myself. I wouldn't be averse to a collaborative effort regarding that. Additionally, I plan to make two more profiles by tonight.

A good resource on Q for instance :
 
I also have as well. although you could check if something would be High 4-C or 4-B :p
 
"The novelizations of Star Trek II and III indicated that the Genesis wave absorbed Reliant, along with all of the gas and dust of the Mutara Nebula, which was used as raw material to create the Genesis planet. They also state the Genesis Device was programmed to make use of as much matter as was available, even creating entire star systems if there was sufficient mass."

So At least 5-B to 4-B.

I'm thinking of doing V'Ger soon; V'ger will be Nigh-Omniscient due to this: "V'ger must evolve. Its knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve."

And will be:

At least 4-B

for this quote here: "Placing V'ger at the same central position as the sun would mean that the energy cloud would extend beyond the Kuiper belt, extending into the orbit of Eris, and essentially swallowing our entire solar system."

This is not contradicted by its ability to obliterate multiple planets in this past.

Its evolved form should be: 1-B after merging with the "Creator" and transcending the universe, as well as higher levels of being and dimensions (something it would not consider logical normally since it could not prove their existence, despite knowing of them)
 
yeah i was about to put something like 5-B, possibly High 4-C/4-B if that works the same. 4-B it is then.

v'ger is sentient isn't it, and where would you rate god (sha ka ree)
 
Not sure about God, but probably the same as V'Ger (At least 4-B). It was the size of a solar system at least.

Ilia could be an okay profile, as she healed near-fatal injuries, and then was part of V'Ger when it transcended into a higher plane of existence.
 
Well, it doesn't need possibly. It could be like: "At least 5-B normally. At least 4-B at maximum capacity"
 
Ye, the novelizations right?

V'Ger's range will be Universal in its 4-B form as it is said to have learned all there is to know in the universe.
 
yea Q should also have that as part of why its 1-B cuz it has done all there possibly is.

speaking of which i was just thinking they could also have Morality Manipulation as he tempted riker to his side and Restoratio for restoring timelines.
 
That would be more helpful in establish the possibly higher rating than the current one, though.

And I don't have a problem with Morality Manipulation, but Restoration maybe not because we don't evaluate the same way the Superpower Wiki does.
 
it does possibly describe High 1-B so it should be on there

just scouring for more feats to see what else can be had. i suppose Mathematics Manipulation goes with the cosmological constant thing? and don't know if they ever did any Possession but its probably highly likely they have it
 
Well, they haven't ever shown them. Is there any evidence that they have?
 
closest i can think of is when the enterprise crew tried to talk to data on the planetoid surface with the soldier creatures but turned out not to be him. (and he was with them the whole time)
 
I'm going to start a new thread based on this. I'll close this for now.
 
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