Star Platinum AP Downgrade

[LordXcano]

Main issue is with this calc. It gets the speed right, but not the mass. It assumes Star Platinum is inhaling all of the mass of the storm into his body at the same time. This is the difference between tanking just part of a tornado and the entire tornado at once. Since we currently go with the high-end of Iwan's calc (sucking in the fog over 30 seconds) I'll divide the mass by 30.

6,311,776.65/30 = 210,392.555 kg

(0.5)(210,392.555)(200^2) = 4.208 Gigajoules, or 1.01 Tons, Building level

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Dang, what's up with all the JJBA threads these days? Reminds me of last years revisions of them i had to do. ^^;

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

No objections to what's being proposed here. It seems like we may have to scale Star Platinum to Magician's Red Large Building level feat. Would there be any problems with that?

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Math seems fine. However Magician's Red, a stand with a B rank in Destructive Power, has a Large Building level feat. So Star Platinum should be superior to it somewhat, since it has an A rank in Destructive Power.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kkapoios/Some_JJBA_calcs#Magician.27s_Red_vaporises_soil

 

[Promestein]

Seems fine; they'd be High 8-C.

This would affect Kars' tiering too.

 

[LordXcano]

No problem with the Large Building one.

 

[Dark649]

The Stands with A rank are superior to the ones with B rank, but it's unknown how much.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I have no problems either. Plus this is rather consistent with the other JJBA calcs that KKa did for me last year....right?

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

@Promestein This would affect all sorts of rankings in JoJo, not just Kars. IIRC many characters have City Block level durability via tanking barrages of punches from Star Platinum, and Dio from Part 1 is also City Block level via scaling to part 3 DIO (who should be physically less durable/powerful/whatever). So DIO, and by extension Jonathan, would also get downgraded.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

I also think "Large Building level+" and "At least Large Building level" are both options here.

 

[Promestein]

@Promestein This would affect all sorts of rankings in JoJo, not just Kars. IIRC many characters have City Block level durability via tanking barrages of punches from Star Platinum, and Dio from Part 1 is also City Block level via scaling to part 3 DIO (who should be physically less durable/powerful/whatever). So DIO, and by extension Jonathan, would also get downgraded.

I know, that goes without saying, but I was referring to Ultimate Kars' Low 7-C stats.

"At least Large Building level" looks fine to me.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

At least Large Building level would be more appropriate; the same should be applied to his speed. Seeing as he briefly contended with the duel wielding Silver Chariot.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with "At least Large Building level" for the A rank stands.

However, somebody should probably inform Arigarmy about this, as he has been doing work improving the Jojo pages.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

At least Large Building seems legit

 

[Badlander4]

I agree.

 

[Arigarmy]

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong here. I'll wait until the action is carried out to continue my current work.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I found this calculation. Not sure if it helps with anything.

 

[Antvasima]

So, are everybody agreed with this? If so, I think that the changes can be carried out.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

It's been carried on earlier by Dark649 i believe. So the changes to everyone including those that are non-canon-ish (they still scale, yes) are likely done.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. Is there anything left to discuss, or should we close this thread?

 

[LordXcano]

Nothing left, I'l close it.