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Stand VS Shining (Concluded)
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What distance do they start at?
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How skilled are both at using their powers?
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Torrence has thought-based Sealing according to the Profile, which works on Spirits (so Stands?) and other supernatural people. Not sure how good it is, but Diavolo doesn’t really resist Sealing. He also seems to be able to summon Spirits to fight for him, who’ll attack whoever has the most psychic energy- and both Diavolo and Torrence have that, so I’m not sure what’d happen.
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Diavolo erases Danny's victory methods GG
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I forget, is the TE Thought-Based? Profile says the Sealing’s the most used ability in the entire movie, meaning he probably starts with it. If they both start with Thought-Based Wincons this is probably Inconclusive, it’s a Who-Shoots-First.
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Shouldn’t he be able to see KC? He can see Ghosts and Spirits.
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What's the starting distance? Since range kinda matters a lot here.
If the range is, like, less than 20 meters, then it's gg for Diavolo
If the range is, like, less than 20 meters, then it's gg for Diavolo
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Diavolo sees himself in a box, so he erases time then donuts.
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Can he erase Time before he gets Boxed though?
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Not even ghosts can see Stands.
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Didn’t the Hallway Hand things literally tear apart Cheap Trick/KQ? Didn’t Ghost Girl acknowledge KQ’s existence at the end? I don’t recall entirely, but I could’ve sworn that happened.
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Not before he brings it out, so pretty much right before Diavolo Thinks.
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So this is a who-think-first situation, especially since Diavolo cannot actually kill Danny while in Erased Time.
This is essentially ’Does KC Erase behind Danny and Donut, or does Danny think first and trap Diavolo in a box?’
Incon for sure.
This is essentially ’Does KC Erase behind Danny and Donut, or does Danny think first and trap Diavolo in a box?’
Incon for sure.
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Exactly, it's either Danny sealing Diavolo, or Diavolo erasing time and donutting. Incon FRA.
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Diavolo:
Danny:
Inconclusive: 2 (Daddybrawl, Veryfunnydidlaugh)
Danny:
Inconclusive: 2 (Daddybrawl, Veryfunnydidlaugh)
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Diavolo and Danny's powers just cancel each other out so Incon
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I'm not sure how erasing the sealing would work. Does it only last less than ten seconds? Otherwise, the second the timeskip runs out, Diavolo should get sealed anyway, right?
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Maybe, I'm just arguing against KC somehow being able to avoid an ability such as that. Though, Diavolo wouldn't necessarily immediately go for a timeskip/donut on someone who looks like a normal dude with no Stand, though he'd definitely kill him.
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The Sealing is thought-based. You’d have to argue Diavolo can still Time Skip when his Stand is not really there anymore. Since he needs his Stand to Time Skip, this is incon- either Diavolo donuts or they both get trapped.
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So here's my thoughts.
Danny has to have the chance to see the Stand before he can have the chance to seal it. This is basically why he could seal Highway to Hell, because he had a chance to seal it before Thunder could commit suicide.
This all depends on the starting distance. If they start pretty far away (far enough that Diavolo needs to close the gap) Danny might be able try to possess Diavolo but if that's the case King Crimson will erase time causing him to appear and get closer. If this is the case then it's inconclusive because Danny can see King Crimson and then it becomes who thinks first... unless KC is on cooldown in which Danny seals gg.
If they start close to each other then: When Diavolo summons KC it will once again be inconclusive since it's who thinks first. Unless he pulls an Abbacchio and kills him the moment he summon KC for a sneak attack... which iirc is not common for him to do when someone is staring him down.
So I see 2 Incon, 1 Win for Danny and 1 Win for Diavolo. I vote Inconclusive.
Danny has to have the chance to see the Stand before he can have the chance to seal it. This is basically why he could seal Highway to Hell, because he had a chance to seal it before Thunder could commit suicide.
This all depends on the starting distance. If they start pretty far away (far enough that Diavolo needs to close the gap) Danny might be able try to possess Diavolo but if that's the case King Crimson will erase time causing him to appear and get closer. If this is the case then it's inconclusive because Danny can see King Crimson and then it becomes who thinks first... unless KC is on cooldown in which Danny seals gg.
If they start close to each other then: When Diavolo summons KC it will once again be inconclusive since it's who thinks first. Unless he pulls an Abbacchio and kills him the moment he summon KC for a sneak attack... which iirc is not common for him to do when someone is staring him down.
So I see 2 Incon, 1 Win for Danny and 1 Win for Diavolo. I vote Inconclusive.
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