SSJ4 vs SSB but frfr no dbh

[Braking]

Son Goku (DBS Manga)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head...

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Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. A Saiyan, sent to Earth as a baby with the mission to destroy it, Goku became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head and was adopted by Grandpa Gohan. After departing five years to train Uub, Goku returns...

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Goku full powa ssj4 used
Goku ssb used (friza sage)
Speed equal and both are 3-A

Goku:
(gt) Baboon:
Monkey:

 

[Quasar002]

Will Goku be able to use superior instinct along with ssjb here? if yes, he can gain an advantage. I believe another advantage would be that goku GT couldn't sense your ki, then it would be more difficult to keep up with it. Goku can also use that barrier he used against gas. But goku's first move should be to activate his superior instinct along with blue and test the strength of its parallel version

 

[Braking]

Shit almost forgor im using f saga key

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Isn't GT Goku only like Baseline 3-A? If so then DBS Goku One-Shots.

 

[pineappleman]

What key for GTku?

 

[denisnic55]

Is there a point in this when even SSG should oneshot SSJ4.

 

[Mickey1940]

not this shit again

 

[SlendVeny]

Is there a point in this when even SSG should oneshot SSJ4.

Oh, really?

 

[Padaruyos]

FPSS4 GT Goku is now 2-C

 

[denisnic55]

Oh, really?

I take back what I said

 

[SlendVeny]

I take back what I said

GT stay winning fr

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

I take back what I said

Even then. Without speed equalized.

GT is MUCH faster than DBS.

Buu saga is already 27 sextillion.

Now imagine GT, lol:

Dragon Ball Z Anime: AP and Speed Scaling

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[SlendVeny]

Even then. Without speed equalized.

GT is MUCH faster than DBS.

Buu saga is already 27 sextillion.

Now imagine GT, lol:

Dragon Ball Z Anime: AP and Speed Scaling

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Gotta be at least 135 Septillion

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Gotta be at least 135 Septillion

Well, I heard Broly was already somewhat 200 Septillion IMAO

 

[denisnic55]

Doesn't matter who's stronger as long as Goku solos

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Son Goku (DBS Manga)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head...

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Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. A Saiyan, sent to Earth as a baby with the mission to destroy it, Goku became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head and was adopted by Grandpa Gohan. After departing five years to train Uub, Goku returns...

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Goku full powa ssj4 used
Goku ssb used (friza sage)
Speed equal and both are 3-A

Goku:
(gt) Baboon:
Monkey:

gt wins due to being last ggez (real) But gt goku argubably has superior ap to manga goku, so he takes this

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

gt wins due to being last ggez (real) But gt goku argubably has superior ap to manga goku, so he takes this

And Super anime Goku aswell .

 

[denisnic55]

SSB Goku manga is 3-A something fodder. Gt wins even without the upgrade.

 

[Quasar002]

Even then. Without speed equalized.

GT is MUCH faster than DBS.

Buu saga is already 27 sextillion.

Now imagine GT, lol:

Dragon Ball Z Anime: AP and Speed Scaling

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Someone has to do about the actual speed of db gt. I'm curious to know what the true speed is.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

And Super anime Goku aswell .

W powerscalers for scaling the chad monkey man above super goku

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

W powerscalers for scaling the chad monkey man above super goku

You gotta admit SS4 looks way more menacing and intimidating than Goku with just red or blue hair.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Someone has to do about the actual speed of db gt. I'm curious to know what the true speed is.

For real

 

[denisnic55]

W powerscalers for scaling the chad monkey man above super goku

We all knew deep within SSJ4 was just better

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You gotta admit SS4 looks way more menacing and intimidating than Goku with just red or blue hair.

idk how but they need to bring it into main db canon

 

[pineappleman]

idk how but they need to bring it into main db canon

Broly is the way

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Broly is the way

Someone needs to do a CRT

 

[SlendVeny]

idk how but they need to bring it into main db canon

Well, he used it as a potential unlock to get out of the child goku form, right? So I guess he could use that to increase the power-up caused by his forms?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

To be fair, we would've had 2-C DBS (3 universes, even, exactly the same as GT), but someone decided we can't have nice things

 

[Mickey1940]

Why is GT 2C now? That doesn't make any sense

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Why is GT 2C now? That doesn't make any sense

Here is the thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-gt-god-tier-upgrade-the-big-and-simple-one.150032/

 

[Mickey1940]

Here is the thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-gt-god-tier-upgrade-the-big-and-simple-one.150032/

ah makes sense then

but then wouldn't the likes of BoG Super Saiyan Goku Goku also be 2C for the exact same reasoning?

Goku and Beerus's clash's shockwaves could be felt in the Realm of Kais as well as the afterlife

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

ah makes sense then

but then wouldn't the likes of BoG Super Saiyan Goku Goku also be 2C for the exact same reasoning?

Goku and Beerus's clash's shockwaves could be felt in the Realm of Kais as well as the afterlife

It is not accepted that within the Super continuity that universe 7 is separated in various Space-Time continuums, unlike GT/Toei

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Considering Beerus and Champa don't seem concerned for their own lives during their clash that could destroy their respective universes, I think they should scale in full

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Considering Beerus and Champa don't seem concerned for their own lives during their clash that could destroy their respective universes, I think they should scale in full

I'm not sure if that counts as a valid point, since they both probably have the durability to tank destruction, although we scaling Low God Tier (Like MUI, Full Power Jiren to the Half of that feat)

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

since they both probably have the durability to tank destruction

That means they should scale outright lol

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

That means they should scale outright lol

Yeah, idk why is not in their profiles

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Anyways, this thread should be closed. GT Goku shitstomps

 

[Mickey1940]

It is not accepted that within the Super continuity that universe 7 is separated in various Space-Time continuums, unlike GT/Toei

that doesn't make any ******* sense

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

that doesn't make any ******* sense

Don't look at me, I don't make the rules, you have to prove that they are totally separate space-times and not a universe with pocket dimensions of a comparable size but tied to the same temporal dimensión

After all, destroying the entire timeline is like destroying the universe but incalculable times.

 

[SlendVeny]

Wait, is BoG Goku Low 2-C, based on the manga canon? There is more than 1 time chamber in that universe, I tell ya.