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That's a really good point. But I don't think the wording is specific enough to determine either side of the coin. I interpreted it as he was too fast considering whis said there was a way to counter time stop which he did by predicting but this time he just moved anyway.Austrian-Man-Meat said:Not really sure if Kaioken Blue qualifies for infinite speed.
Goku only said that the form he has reached is beyond his time leap, which could possibly mean that Kaioken grants special immunities towards time manipulating abilities.
However this feat is VERY close to giving Goku infinite speed if not making him so. Just need some more thoughts tbh.
Hence the via technique as would be the case of someone who can stop time via hax (most of the time. Some are entirely transcendent).Austrian-Man-Meat said:Actually on second thought Goku having infinite speed is not really right, seeing as he has to activate a technique to grant him this speed/resistance in the first place.
TheMightyRegulator said:Hence the via technique as would be the case of someone who can stop time via hax (most of the time. Some are entirely transcendent).Austrian-Man-Meat said:Actually on second thought Goku having infinite speed is not really right, seeing as he has to activate a technique to grant him this speed/resistance in the first place.
If DIO has infinite speedAustrian-Man-Meat said:Then again it's like giving Jotaro Kujo infinite speed on the basis of him moving in the frozen time with the use of a medium.
Dropping a road roller onto you at infinite speed whilst muda-ing and wryying an infinite amount of times xD.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:If DIO has infinite speedAustrian-Man-Meat said:Then again it's like giving Jotaro Kujo infinite speed on the basis of him moving in the frozen time with the use of a medium.
how many times can he say "muda" while time is stopped for nine seconds?
Using his infinite speed, ROAD ROLLER DA generates an infinite number of times the infinite energy required to reach light speed, and can be dropped an infinite number of times during stopped time.Austrian-Man-Meat said:Dropping a road roller onto you at infinite speed whilst muda-ing and wryying an infinite amount of times xD.
3-A SSB kaioken Goku seems totally legit. I think we're just waiting for Kav to weigh in.The Living Tribunal1 said:but for the kaioken, has 3-A been agreed upon?
This is exactly what I've been saying lol.The Living Tribunal1 said:ok enough with this infinite speed being infinite thing
since keep in mind in db verse, with high ki you can overcome hax
but for the kaioken, has 3-A been agreed upon?
also another option: goku said he had a counter technique to the time stopDontTalk said:As I said in the discussion about infinite speed for time stop of another character before:
Moving in time stops should almost always be viewed as time stop resistance.
Another option that goes with the typical shonen trope of "every hax can be destroyed if I just use enough power" is that the time stop just generally is flawed in such a way that it can be overcome just by having a great enough power gap.
Either way, I think time stop resistance would be the way to go here.
Hopefully everything will be cleared up in the next episode, which seems to be the way it's heading.The Living Tribunal1 said:also another option: goku said he had a counter technique to the time stop
maybe thats it?
That could be a totally legit combat trick thing, but I don't know if he did that. He seemed conscious of his actions and actually talked to Hit during his "time skip".Wbaez93 said:@Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot What about the thing that Wiss said about their bodies moving without their mind? Could Goku have used that thanks to the KK?
Then again, we should wait until the Tournament Arc finishes.
Impressive? Pfft. That thing was done way back in the 21st Budokai (I always mess up the Budokais) lol.Mister Death said:Also, I just rewatched the episode, and even if there is no infinite speed, he's now fast enough to the point where he can't be seen moving, if you watch the episode you'll know what I mea
but against hit?Alexcar3000 said:Impressive? Pfft. That thing was done way back in the 22nd Budokai lol.Mister Death said:Also, I just rewatched the episode, and even if there is no infinite speed, he's now fast enough to the point where he can't be seen moving, if you watch the episode you'll know what I mea