Spongebob Squarepants Discussion Thread

[coolgohan09]

I think I already said that, but absorption of power does not work on SpongeBob, because in addition to resisting absorption, there are other problems.
Absorbing all of his powers is suicide, in one episode SpongeBob donates his laugh box to Squidward in addition to the fact that he can continue laughing without any problems, Squidward, when he got the maddening laugh of SpongeBob, had no control over it and started laughing non-stop to the point of going crazy.
Also stealing his powers would mean you would have his senses, when Plankton copied his eyes which offer a wide view it ended up changing Plankton with him having copied one.
Absorbing his powers would also mean copying his brain which not only acts alone but also has a world inside it that just by seeing it destroys whoever is inside.

Not to mention that Plankton, through his shapeshifting, tried to return to normal and failed.
Plus copying the eyes made Plankton see the world differently.

Spongebob dna or even emotions affect krabby patty kinda same thing with squidward yeah spongebob if he is sad he sees it dark but what new abilities u found Btw

 

[Pugao_03]

Well, there was a scene in an episode that I'm not finding where he loses his animation going black and white
In that case the animation falls off his body, so he solves this problem by absorbing it back.

 

[Pugao_03]

I also found another scene of him regenerating his own body 16:15

 

[Pugao_03]

I wanted to ask if it's okay for me to add the phrase from the third SpongeBob movie to Squidward's profile, not to mention that I think his intelligence should be genius for the justifications, since both in the current episodes and in the old ones he built complex mechanisms in seconds

In addition, I'm having a problem with the issue of life insurance, because in the episode that happens it is mentioned that those things were the luck of the characters themselves who saved them, in this case Squidward and Patrick would have supernatural luck
As for the question of Squidward most of the time not being lucky this is due to his coexistence with SpongeBob as he described, SpongeBob in this case would only have greater luck

 

[Pugao_03]

The only one who would lose his luck in the case would be Mr Krabs, but nothing else, in combat situations like he doesn't have SpongeBob Squidward would have his supernatural luck
Patrick, on the other hand, is very consistent, there were episodes where he found automatic machines in empty places, sold art overshadowing Squidward and many others

But Squidward Dee's line describing SpongeBob to defend him "I don't like SpongeBob. In fact, I mistreat him. Anyway. I met this dork at summer camp too. I remember it like it was yesterday. And that's why that even though I can't stand SpongeBob, at the same time, well... I love him. I love and hate him. He's like an ice cream with salt. Because he's sweet, and very annoying! He's nice, and boring that not even a fingernail scratching the blackboard. Okay, most of the time he's very annoying. But that insufferable guy who won't stop talking is my friend. And he doesn't deserve to die"

 

[Pugao_03]

And also that of Squidward's profile in the regeneration part is not "shrinkage of existence" it emptied itself to the point of disappearing in one of those cases and in the other it disappeared after shrinking a bit

 

[Bobsican]

The third movie is a part of Kamp Koral's setting, which is a separate canon, so I think it'd be inappropiate to use a third movie quote onto a main canon page.

 

[coolgohan09]

The third movie is a part of Kamp Koral's setting, which is a separate canon, so I think it'd be inappropiate to use a third movie quote onto a main canon page.

They have no source And they likely though the timeline was alternate universe which wouldn't make sense as their a character from kk that appeared twice and spongebob remembers kamp koral

 

[Bobsican]

They have no source And they likely though the timeline was alternate universe which wouldn't make sense as their a character from kk that appeared twice and spongebob remembers kamp koral

They do have sources, let me just quote them for you:

- The three shows are straight up stated to be separate realities in multiple trailers regarding The Tidal Zone.

Of note is that this likely was done out of the whole backslash regarding the continuity from the fanbase.

 

[Pugao_03]

They do have sources, let me just quote them for you:

- The three shows are straight up stated to be separate realities in multiple trailers regarding The Tidal Zone.

Of note is that this likely was done out of the whole backslash regarding the continuity from the fanbase.

The problem is that according to the most current episodes it is given to understand that they take place in the same universe, SpongeBob remembers the events of Kamp koral and even Patrick star show, Patrick remembers scenes from Patrick star show.
Characters from Kamp koral appear in the regular show and Sandy when talking to her version of Kamp koral refers to her as being from the "past"

All of these aforementioned things happened within the show, not sure about using trailers.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

The problem is that according to the most current episodes it is given to understand that they take place in the same universe, SpongeBob remembers the events of Kamp koral and even Patrick star show, Patrick remembers scenes from Patrick star show.
Characters from Kamp koral appear in the regular show and Sandy when talking to her version of Kamp koral refers to her as being from the "past"

All of these aforementioned things happened within the show, not sure about using trailers.

Well yeah, it was screwy at first, but they made it all work out somehow xD.

However one thing will surprise you that Bob shared with me lately, albeit even I agree that the find is controversial per say.

 

[Pugao_03]

Well yeah, it was screwy at first, but they made it all work out somehow xD.

However one thing will surprise you that Bob shared with me lately, albeit even I agree that the find is controversial per say.

Strangely, SpongeBob even remembers things when he was still "Spongeboy"
The entire episode is about his memories.

But the SpongeBob wiki uses references to justify that Kamp koral fits the main timeline.
And of course, according to one of the writers, the show does not have an canon chronology.

In an interview, they mention that this is because having something like this would limit their creative freedom.

 

[coolgohan09]

They do have sources, let me just quote them for you:

- The three shows are straight up stated to be separate realities in multiple trailers regarding The Tidal Zone.

Of note is that this likely was done out of the whole backslash regarding the continuity from the fanbase.

Yeah but this gets contradicted it a lot by multiple references

 

[coolgohan09]

revealed in the episode "Kitchen Sponge" and the main show episodes "Something Narwhal This Way Comes" and "Friendiversary," the show adjusts the timeline of the main show. Sandy explains that she sent her younger self to summer camp to stop Plankton from stealing the Krabby Patty secret formula, which explains how the story of her and SpongeBob meeting for the first time changed.[38][39][40][41][42]

From esb

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Strangely, SpongeBob even remembers things when he was still "Spongeboy"
The entire episode is about his memories.

But the SpongeBob wiki uses references to justify that Kamp koral fits the main timeline.
And of course, according to one of the writers, the show does not have an canon chronology.

In an interview, they mention that this is because having something like this would limit their creative freedom.

Okay so while I too agree, I think it's time I share what Bob sent me:

Okay, so uh... this may come off as unexpected, but this is a quite big change to how we index the verse in general.

Anyways, for context, I personally have an apparently rare sort of guidebook regarding Spongebob, which released in 2009 as part of the 10th anniversary of the series. Anyways, it looks like it didn't release in English (but rather only Spanish and Portuguese within Latin America, which isn't unheard of with how some series like Villainous got mainly hosted in Mexico even while owned by Cartoon Network) as far reverse image search gives me of the following:

I grabbed an higher quality image I found of the cover I used to image search, plus the one I own has my IRL name written with ink, so...
I'd also note that looking up something like "Spongebob Anniversary Album" (which is what the title of this would translate as) just gave me results for music albums, nothing properly related to this, which is why I'm doubtful it's available in English, but for our luck I natively know Spanish.

The main publisher (Salo) appears to come from Chile, and their website is long dead. In any case, the guidebook had a good amount of merchandise around it, namely collectable stickers, and there was even a promotion on that the first three people to complete it and answer a questionary about Spongebob correctly would win a Wii plus a Spongebob game:

More importantly, most of the art featured in such stickers was also repurposed for another Spongebob game, Spongebob Squigglepants:

In game context, I'm on the 3DS's Home Menu sub app to draw stuff based on what's going on a game, anyways, we can clearly see a segment of "Punk" Spongebob on the upper left of the upper screen (both screens in-game are shown in the upper screen, ignore my Mario, lol). The reason the game is clearly mashing art styles right now is because it's a minigame mode where what minigame happens is totally randomized from all that are in the game, rather than just sticking to a single theme (yes, there's themes for each "family" of minigames, but that's besides the point).

...Yeah, i also own a notebook that was advertised in the guidebook, which further cements its officiality.

The final nail on this being a official product is how the back of the guidebook (and of the notebook, for that matter) cites all of its copyright to Viacom, which owns Nickelodeon.

Now, will all of that said, y'all may wonder how this guidebook matters, and the answer is...

Patrick is stated to be almost 2 meters tall:

Patrick Star is 198 centimeters tall and weights 290 pounds (6'6 ft tall).

Now, how this impacts tiering, especially for "proper" humans like the ones in the first two movies, especially the Burger Beard calc, are beyond me.

I do have to say that beyond the wacky human size implications (namely the ones in the first two movies), this is surprisingly consistent, Spongebob and company are seen of about the same size compared to chimps, a cat, and let alone Mermaidman, Barnacle Boy and Davy Jones. Pearl (a whale) also doesn't seem much bigger than the other characters, and the series was never intended to be realistic.

Well, it's still clearly a product approved and owned by Viacom, and was even used for other derivative works as well as said before.

The characters having stated heights elsewhere is a valid concern, but also keep in mind this book released in 2009, which is way later on than the characters being stated to be inches tall, respectively, so a mere retcon case can apply here if there's no contradictions to this scale beyond mere skepticism.

I just wanted to add to this bit that those derivative products clearly got into the English branch of Nickelodeon, as much Spongebob Squigglepants was mainly done in the USA, so it'd be safe to claim the higher-ups at Nick bothered supervising it and deeming it viable for publishing in the first place.

Thoughts?

 

[coolgohan09]

Okay so while I too agree, I think it's time I share what Bob sent me:



Thoughts?

WOW PATRICK Is canonically 6 feet 6 Hmm well this proves humans are kind bigger and plus with 1 million line And trillions of fish Hopefully the earth is scales bigger

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

WOW PATRICK Is canonically 6 feet 6 Hmm well this proves humans are kind bigger and plus with 1 million line And trillions of fish Hopefully the earth is scales bigger

Bruh I am 5'7-ish and it's scary to think about a 6'7 Big Meaty Krabs and Squidward Tennisb0lls. Well despite this, there have been those that don't like this implication as much, mainly Psycho of course, think's it's a bit screwy. While I get the sentiment, when Frenchy was run over he looks not much bigger then them, amongst a scuba diver from where Mr. Krabs first fell in love with Puff also match their sizes, don't get me started on the Gorilla scene, so it's understandable regarding the doubt.

Although with "Feral Friends" when many BB Mites were de-evolvo'd, they become more of their IRL selves as smaller or bigger species, Sandy for instance becomes much smaller when she was de-evolvo'd.

 

[coolgohan09]

Bruh I am 5'7-ish and it's scary to think about a 6'7 Big Meaty Krabs and Squidward Tennisb0lls. Well despite this, there have been those that don't like this implication as much, mainly Psycho of course, think's it's a bit screwy. While I get the sentiment, when Frenchy was run over he looks not much bigger then them, amongst a scuba diver from where Mr. Krabs first fell in love with Puff also match their sizes, don't get me started on the Gorilla scene, so it's understandable regarding the doubt.

Although with "Feral Friends" when many BB Mites were de-evolvo'd, they become more of their IRL selves as smaller or bigger species, Sandy for instance becomes much smaller when she was de-evolvo'd.

But ngl its pretty consistent that there inches but yeah a 6 feet 6 buff 290 pounds star is scary yeah in live action the squirrel are pretty small when they go to Texas

 

[Pugao_03]

Thoughts?

Well I understand a little spanish due to my native language having similarities with it, I can confirm it's actually written this and wow this is awesome.
It is consistent with certain scenes where characters falling from heights that would be minuscule are able to pass through concrete with their weight or cause impacts that someone small would not.
It was really good work for him to find that.

Since humans would be bigger the Earth could be bigger and we actually have a calculation for that along with quotes from other characters and bizarre cosmology to help.

But whether this affects the chord calculation I have no idea, but it does make a lot of things consistent.

I'm sure there are several scenes of them falling from certain heights and causing damage that would be impossible for something of centimeters

 

[Pugao_03]

Besides affecting humans it would likely affect SpongeBob's large size by absorbing water or using his size manipulation.

 

[Pugao_03]

Bruh I am 5'7-ish and it's scary to think about a 6'7 Big Meaty Krabs and Squidward Tennisb0lls. Well despite this, there have been those that don't like this implication as much, mainly Psycho of course, think's it's a bit screwy. While I get the sentiment, when Frenchy was run over he looks not much bigger then them, amongst a scuba diver from where Mr. Krabs first fell in love with Puff also match their sizes, don't get me started on the Gorilla scene, so it's understandable regarding the doubt.

Although with "Feral Friends" when many BB Mites were de-evolvo'd, they become more of their IRL selves as smaller or bigger species, Sandy for instance becomes much smaller when she was de-evolvo'd.

I don't know if it would help, but one of the writers had recently mentioned that the size of things in Bikini Bottom is "fuzzy".
And really most things seem to contradict inches.

 

[coolgohan09]

I don't know if it would help, but one of the writers had recently mentioned that the size of things in Bikini Bottom is "fuzzy".
And really most things seem to contradict inches.

I mean but it's constantly stated but jts pretty much offical ngl but ur right inches can be easily contradicted but most thing's with spongebob in general

 

[Bobsican]

Yeah, Kamp Koral was retconned into the main canon from the look of things, although there's clear contradictions here and there and even the writers admit there's overall no canon to begin with.

Personally I'd prefer to just make alternate pages for Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show, or at least rate them with separate keys, which'd likely be the case anyways considering both are clearly chronologically before the main series.

As for the size of the characters, the only real issue is skepticism, consistency wise nothing really breaks as of the time the statement was made, especially with how mermen characters of a comparable size like Mindy just call humans like the cyclops as giants.

 

[Pugao_03]

I don't think there's much of a difference between the characters to have separate pages or anything like that I think it would be kind of redundant.
Although in these cases a separate key would be preferable as they are the same.

But as for size, maybe if we use arguments like the planet in the verse being bigger it should make the size of humans more consistent.
Because thanks to a scene of the depth of the Earth in the verse they managed to make a calculation that makes the Earth huge.

SpongeBob Earth Size

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[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I don't think there's much of a difference between the characters to have separate pages or anything like that I think it would be kind of redundant.
Although in these cases a separate key would be preferable as they are the same.

I mean these are the same people when they were younger, separated keys at all is just as redundant. Just currently leave such as is.

But as for size, maybe if we use arguments like the planet in the verse being bigger it should make the size of humans more consistent.
Because thanks to a scene of the depth of the Earth in the verse they managed to make a calculation that makes the Earth huge.

SpongeBob Earth Size

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Oh yeah, the argument that such size will cause BH's thing is still prominent apparently, but there were cases that immensely massive planets work regardless. They haven't seen Phineas and Ferbs Universal increase feat, nothing too extreme happened there! XD

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

As for the size of the characters, the only real issue is skepticism, consistency wise nothing really breaks as of the time the statement was made, especially with how mermen characters of a comparable size like Mindy just call humans like the cyclops as giants.

There are but a few inconsistencies that I mentioned, but yes.

 

[Pugao_03]

I mean these are the same people when they were younger, separated keys at all is just as redundant. Just currently leave such as is.

Oh yeah, the argument that such size will cause BH's thing is still prominent apparently, but there were cases that immensely massive planets work regardless. They haven't seen Phineas and Ferbs Universal increase feat, nothing too extreme happened there! XD

Indeed, I remember Phineas and Ferb increasing the size of the entire universe and everything was fine.

In SpongeBob, we have natural fire from outer space, a belt of ice and radiation, and a bunch of other physics-defying stuff.
A bigger planet is the least of the problems when we have strange and different biomes from the real world on the planet


water under water

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Indeed, I remember Phineas and Ferb increasing the size of the entire universe and everything was fine.

Glad you remember that xD.

In SpongeBob, we have natural fire from outer space, a belt of ice and radiation, and a bunch of other physics-defying stuff.
A bigger planet is the least of the problems when we have strange and different biomes from the real world on the planet

water under water

Don't forget the biggest defiances in "SpongeBob Vs. The Big One": We see fire underwater again which the characters stare at to master the way back home, jelly doughnuts where the Dutchman Triangle is, and now actually large AF locations and waves via what the user Bob has acknowledged as it is

 

[Bobsican]

Phineas and Ferb should have Large Size FR, I recall that was only declined out of verse equalization, which is silly when it's something as simple as size, rather than some complex verse semantic.

 

[Bobsican]

Sorry for the double post, but...

water under water

Water underwater is kinda plausible actually, some water can be extremely dense with salt and thus behave "separately" from normal water, like how water and oil interact.

But fire underwater is overall made clear to just be because they aren't meant to be realistic lmao.

 

[Pugao_03]

Sorry for the double post, but...


Water underwater is kinda plausible actually, some water can be extremely dense with salt and thus behave "separately" from normal water, like how water and oil interact.

But fire underwater is overall made clear to just be because they aren't meant to be realistic lmao.

The comics also hear the same question about water, in this case Patrick was confused by this fact.
In the case of the Bikini bottom there appears to be both fresh and salt water under the water, along with fish drowning in the beach water.
In more current episodes there was also a scene of a fish seeing rain and saying "rain under water?"
It's not the strangest thing either, at another time there was... Wind under water
I think these things should support the issue of the show not being realistic at all.

Aside from things like drowning fish, there's also a crab's daughter being a whale, Plus worse things like SpongeBob's freezer freezing his entire house and even fire.


But as for Phineas and Ferb it's ridiculous to apply reality equalization, In other verses where there are small or large characters, the same thing does not happen.

 

[Bobsican]

Pearl is implied to be adopted in the episode where Plankton goes to a universe where his role is swapped with Mr. Krabs'.

 

[coolgohan09]

Sorry for the double post, but...


Water underwater is kinda plausible actually, some water can be extremely dense with salt and thus behave "separately" from normal water, like how water and oil interact.

But fire underwater is overall made clear to just be because they aren't meant to be realistic lmao.

Yeah true most stuff Dosen't make sense and the earth is clearly bigger a lot more sea biome and more depth

 

[Pugao_03]

Pearl is implied to be adopted in the episode where Plankton goes to a universe where his role is swapped with Mr. Krabs'.

I'm not really sure about that, in that episode he switched lives with Mr Krabs, Basically the machine created a reality identical to the original until the moment Plankton finds himself, Everything to simulate the life of Mr Krabs, I just think that if a crab can have a whale daughter, other species could do the same.

However, whether or not she is really Mr Krabs' daughter is debatable because the drawing leaves it open, Apart from the total illogic of the drawing that makes this kind of thing possible Plankton in the past fell in love with Mr Krabs' mother.
And Mr Krabs' mother cheated on Plankton with a robot.

But something I remembered is that in a certain episode the characters took care of an egg that had a chick inside.
Apart from the fact that he talks and is underwater he appears to be the same size as a normal chick.

 

[Bobsican]

I meant on how on a part of the episode she claims that out of Plankton being a bad father she'd leave home again, implying she didn't have a good past to begin with as she left her original home.

 

[coolgohan09]

I meant on how on a part of the episode she claims that out of Plankton being a bad father she'd leave home again, implying she didn't have a good past to begin with as she left her original home.

Well Plankton in mr krabs shoe would not do well at all with a whale And Plankton in early seasons wasn't that kind same guy who enslaved all of bikini bottom

 

[Pugao_03]

I meant on how on a part of the episode she claims that out of Plankton being a bad father she'd leave home again, implying she didn't have a good past to begin with as she left her original home.

Well, Pérola is an emotionally unstable daughter, it's normal for teenagers to have fights with their parents and leave home because they think it's the "end of the world"
Before adolescence they seemed to get along well as Mr Krabs had taken care of her since she was a baby
But when she became a teenager she started crying about her dad using slang, Called her friend saying to discard the slang they use because her father is using it, In addition to being desperate for screaming to the point that the whole city hears for having a pimple.

I think she's like that because of the stereotype of a teenager they put in her.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Well, Pérola is an emotionally unstable daughter, it's normal for teenagers to have fights with their parents and leave home because they think it's the "end of the world"
Before adolescence they seemed to get along well as Mr Krabs had taken care of her since she was a baby
But when she became a teenager she started crying about her dad using slang, Called her friend saying to discard the slang they use because her father is using it, In addition to being desperate for screaming to the point that the whole city hears for having a pimple.

I think she's like that because of the stereotype of a teenager they put in her.

It admittedly is still odd how Plankton even changing timelines, manages to literally bang a whale woman much bigger then himself xD.

 

[Pugao_03]

I mean, whales are bigger than crabs and Mr Krabs probably did the same XD

 

[coolgohan09]

Lmao why are we thinking how a plankton would bang his worst enemy