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I mean there is Twilight in Babylon, right? There could be some impressive feats from there.
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Spider-Man General Discussion
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Calculated Giant Electro's GPE, Ultimate Spidey should also have Class K lifting strength for being able to pull Electro's head with webbing
Tho there is the potential issue of Electro stating that he became a being of pure energy since upscaling his weight wouldn't work in that case
Tho there is the potential issue of Electro stating that he became a being of pure energy since upscaling his weight wouldn't work in that case
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I've evaluated those calcs and added them to my Spider-Man sandbox so we don't forget them.
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Just a reminder of what the fragments did for each villain (aside from Mysterio as he's pretty blatant with his abilities):
Kraven became faster
Hobgoblin could summon gargoyles, including one comparable to a building in size
Electro empowered himself progressively. Ultimate has no trouble taking on Electro's first two amplified states, but the last giant sized one couldn't be harmed directly
Hammerhead fused a machine gun and rocket launcher to his arms and likely wouldn't have to worry about ammunition
Sandman had his sand abilities amplified and could even spread his consciousness with it
Scorpion became overall more powerful
Vulture is granted teleportation
Deadpool could create two clones of himself
Juggernaut became stronger, though at the cost of being more vulnerable as the fragment's power came into conflict with the Gem of Cyttorak
Doctor Octopus used the fragment to power a reactor she created
Goblin progressively uses the fragment's power. During his first encounter with Noir, the two are on fairly equal grounds. During the final battle however, he's ascended to where Noir can't defeat him head on
Carnage gained the ability to perform necromancy
Kraven became faster
Hobgoblin could summon gargoyles, including one comparable to a building in size
Electro empowered himself progressively. Ultimate has no trouble taking on Electro's first two amplified states, but the last giant sized one couldn't be harmed directly
Hammerhead fused a machine gun and rocket launcher to his arms and likely wouldn't have to worry about ammunition
Sandman had his sand abilities amplified and could even spread his consciousness with it
Scorpion became overall more powerful
Vulture is granted teleportation
Deadpool could create two clones of himself
Juggernaut became stronger, though at the cost of being more vulnerable as the fragment's power came into conflict with the Gem of Cyttorak
Doctor Octopus used the fragment to power a reactor she created
Goblin progressively uses the fragment's power. During his first encounter with Noir, the two are on fairly equal grounds. During the final battle however, he's ascended to where Noir can't defeat him head on
Carnage gained the ability to perform necromancy
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I'm glad to see Shattered Dimensions getting the appreciation it deserves. I've played that game multiple times, and it was my first proper introduction to the alternate Spider-Men featured. It certainly contributed to a lot of the hype I had for the Spider-Verse comics/movies that came afterwards.
As a note, I thought that Electro and Scorpion's ability to spawn minions came from their fragments, though I might be misremembering.
As a note, I thought that Electro and Scorpion's ability to spawn minions came from their fragments, though I might be misremembering.
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Hold on i just noticed i messed up the scaling on the final step of the Juggernaut building calc
Edit: i fixed it
Edit: i fixed it
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My evaluation applies for that as well so no worries
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Calced some of the damage done by Vultures molotovs
Lower than i expected, tho i could also try calcing some of the other holes the molotovs caused since those could give a higher result
Lower than i expected, tho i could also try calcing some of the other holes the molotovs caused since those could give a higher result
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I think that'd be a good idea since those are a part of the destruction caused
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You can get Vulture to drop a Molotov which will spread fire while he's on one of the crate packs, though it never does explode when he's on it surprisingly
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Weird
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Btw, all the Spideys would scale to each other somewhat right?
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Spider-man is cursed with 8-C.
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Multiverse spanning consistency
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Finally did the Shocker calc, albeit in something of a tired state, so it's possible I messed up somewhere.
With so little to work with and so many ways to calculate it, it was a bit of a pain.
With so little to work with and so many ways to calculate it, it was a bit of a pain.
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I think the calc looks alright
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In SD? Not rating wise, no (well, or at the very least they’re not equal is what I mean). Ultimate is likely the strongest amongst them, 2099 is superior to Amazing, and Noir definitely isn’t comparable to 2099 and Ultimate’s Speed of Light feats
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Would Noir be comparable (or slightly weaker) AP wise tho? Or would he just scale to his own feats
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Are you writing those down in a Sandbox?
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Believe it or not, some of the alternate suit choices in SD and EoT are canonically wearable for the Spider-Men. For example, Madame Web is stated to have made Ultimate Spider-Man aware of the Electro-Proof Suit with it accessible to him. The Negative Zone Suit similarly is wearable for Spider-Man Noir, who even commented on how he found its colours useful for stealth
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I like how gaining your powers from a spider god is weaker than getting bit by a radioactive spider
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It might also be worth calcing Hammerhead destroying walls in his boss fight, the walls have metal sticking out of them so i believe reinforced concrete values can be used
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Found something that supports Miguel scaling above Peter in SD/EoT. According the bios, Doctor Octopus 2099 patterned her suit with the same one used by the original Doctor Octopus, who was historically noted to have possibly killed Amazing Spider-Man. 2099 Ock obviously made her suit far more advance compared to the original. Of course, the claim of Ock killing Spider-Man is technically ambiguous, though its worth noting and Miguel's fight with Anti-Venom already gives a clear idea to us that he's stronger anyways
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Miguel getting the recognition he deserves. Based.
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Hey, Electro's profile lacks a lot of stuff:
1. His Range is listed as Unknown, i'm pretty sure he should be like several dozens of meters or something like that since we see him using ranged attacks against Spider-Man
2. His Standard Equipment is also listed as Unknown which is absurd since in his second key he has the Arc Reactor
1. His Range is listed as Unknown, i'm pretty sure he should be like several dozens of meters or something like that since we see him using ranged attacks against Spider-Man
2. His Standard Equipment is also listed as Unknown which is absurd since in his second key he has the Arc Reactor
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Okay this is what I got so far for SD/EoT Spider-Men
Intelligence:
Amazing Spider-Man
Extraordinary Genius (Worked with Miguel O'Hara to fix a time travelling portal. Should have the same level of intellectual prowess as The CEO, an evil version of himself that created an anti-aging formula as well as a device that could not only time travel, but would have also shattered the fabric of space and time. Held a scientific prowess early in his life. Educated in physics and biochemistry. Took down Kraven's disciples with ease. His first victory over Kraven was enough to be seen as a humiliation, causing the hunter's disciples to abandon him. Defeated several members of Silver Sable's Wild Pack and is typically responsible for the very few failures the mercenary group are tasked with completing. Won against Juggernaut whereas Silver Sable and her Wild Pack struggled to even keep him in one location due to his sheer power. Partook in a secret war against Latveria alongside Wolverine, Daredevil, Captain America, and Luke Cage)
Spider-Man 2099
Extraordinary Genius (Was sent to Alchemax School for Gifted Youngsters as a child, which taught the "best and brightest" for a career at Alchemax. Miguel would earn his career as the head of a program designed to create super-powered individuals. Holds an advanced degree in genetics. Easily identified how Hobgoblin's wings were constructed just by taking a closer look at them when the villain was knocked out. Created a Chronal link program in an incredibly short time, which allowed Miguel to communicate with Peter through time itself. Easily grasped the mechanics of Quantum Causality as it unexpectedly occurred during the events in Edge of Time. Worked with Peter Parker to fix a time travelling portal. Commonly makes short work of the Public Eye's forces. Continues to grow in his skill, such as how in his early days a S.I.E.G.E. officer would be difficult to defeat, only for them to become far more manageable as shown during the Shattered Dimensions Crisis. Despite their unpredictability, Spider-Man managed to use Atrocity's tentacles entering through space and time as an advantage in his battle against The CEO)
Ultimate Spider-Man
Genius (Created his own web-shooters. Should share a similar, if not greater intelligence than his father who created the Symbiote alongside his colleague in an attempt to cure cancer. Was more skilled than Deadpool, a Gulf War veteran skilled in black ops missions and assassinations known for killing mutants, with Spider-Man dominating him in their first battle to the point where the assassin fled out of cowardice. Implied to have fought Reavers on Kraktoa Island alongside the X-Men. Overcame Carnage and his Symbiotic army that were wreaking havoc on SHIELD and even managed to crash their Helicarriers, only having limited assistance from the agency in combating the threats. While wearing the Black Suit, Peter defeated Spider-Slayer Mark II robots, which were primarily designed to target Symbiotes such as Venom and Carnage with weaponry that exploits their weaknesses)
Spider-Man Noir
Gifted (Despite waging a one man war on crime, Peter is incredibly effective as a superhero. His stealth has proven to be incredibly difficult for several criminals to deal with as Spider-Man often takes out large areas guarded by armed men all while going unseen and saving hostages at the same time. When ambushed by several gang members at a train track, Spider-Man defeated each one with ease and dodge oncoming trains at the same time. Vulture feared Peter and favoured either fleeing or striking up a deal with him more often than he resorted to facing him in direct combat. Even after gaining the ability to teleport thanks to the fragment's powers, Spider-Man defeated Vulture. Defeated Norman Osborn even after he empowered himself to the point where he could not be defeated regularly, thus ending his criminal empire)
Abilities:
Amazing Spider-Man:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery, Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight. Knew precisely where Kraven was sniping from, using this to direct his shots into trees while fighting off the villain's trained disciples), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Weapon Creation (Can shape his webbing into large hammers and spiked weaponry), Limited Acausality (Although Peter was affected by Walker Sloan changing the timeline, he's still displayed a degree of temporal immunity and Miguel has implied that Parker's knowledge of the alteration is mentally repressed. Peter was capable of heading to the year of 2099 and interacting with his evil future self. Changes made through the quantum causality are remembered and utilized by both Miguel and Peter as to help one another out in certain scenarios. Once revising the timeline to its original state, Spider-Man did not lose his memory of the previous temporal alterations and reattained his knowledge of history's original course), Damage Boost (Can increase the power of his strikes with Web Punches), Afterimage Creation and Intangibility (Hyper-Sense allows Spider-Man to run through opponents lasers and opponents unharmed, as well as leave behind a trail of afterimages. Moves fast enough to create afterimages when performing the Eight-Legged Fury), Time Stop (Time Paradox allows Peter to briefly freeze time for his opponents within a specific range)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Extreme Temperatures and Radiation (The Future Foundation Suit is built with unstable molecules which should share the same properties that allow it to withstand space's extreme conditions as they do in canon)
Spider-Man 2099:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Natural Weaponry, Stealth Mastery (Easily snuck into Alchemax without being noticed), Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens with the newly bestowed Spider-Man. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Perception Manipulation (With Accelerated Vision, time seemingly slows down for Miguel, allowing him to more easily dodge or redirect homing missiles and outspeed enemies effortlessly), Acausality (Type 1; Even as time changed before his very eyes by Walker Sloan, he was completely unaffected by it. Changes made through the quantum causality are remembered and utilized by both Miguel and Peter as to help one another out in certain scenarios. Once revising the timeline to its original state, O'Hara did not lose his memory of the previous temporal alterations), Afterimage Creation and Summoning (Miguel's Accelerated Decoy gives off the illusion that he's in two places at once, often confusing his opponents. His Decoy Strike allows decoys to rush at enemies and pull them towards Miguel), Time Stop (Time Paradox allows Miguel to briefly freeze time for his opponents within a specific range), Limited Resistance to Radiation Manipulation (Miguel's Spider-Man suit provides a small degree of protection to high levels of radiation)
Ultimate Spider-Man (SD):
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Statistics Amplification (Was granted the Symbiote as to enhance his abilities and physical attributes without the risk of losing control), Rage Power, Elasticity and Shapeshifting (Can use the Symbiote to stretch out tendrils and form spikes from his body), Non-Physical Interaction (Can harm and defeat creatures made of pure energy), Resistance to Corruption (Granted the ability to safely don the Black Suit without becoming violent and uncontrollable), Empathic Manipulation (Spider-Man is capable of utilizing the power from rage boosts without losing himself to aggressive emotions)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Was made aware of the insulated Electro-Proof Suit's existence by Madame Web and even has the option to attain it supposedly)
Spider-Man Noir (SD):
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Stealth Mastery (Between the alternate Spider-Men he worked with, Noir excels the most at stealth, above the likes of Spider-Man 2099 who snuck into Alchemax with ease. Noir's utilizes the darkness provided by the shadows to such a degree that he can stand a few meters from a group of threats without even a hint of his presence. Followed Hammerhead and his men, taking out his forces without being noticed. Even when Hammerhead blasted apart large portions of cover with gunfire and had large spotlights scanning the area, Noir landed three sneak attacks on the villain. Took down alleyways patrolled by henchmen and avoided spotlights while climbing on building walls while tracking Vulture. Quietly took out a carnival heavily guarded with armed criminals while freeing hostages), Web Creation (While he had already possessed the ability to use webbing, Madame Web enhanced this ability significantly), Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight. Easily fought off several gang members attack him from pitch black locations. Had no trouble taking down three crooks after having gas briefly weaken his senses), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Air Manipulation (The Noir Whirlwind Punch unleashes air based strikes. The Black Gust attacks allow enemies to "feel the power of the wind", sending nearby targets into the air), Afterimage Creation (Moves fast enough to create afterimages when performing the Eight-Legged Fury)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Antimatter Manipulation (Has access to the Negative Zone Suit, which allows its wearer to safely navigate the Negative Zone which likely holds the same properties as it does in canon)
Scaling Chain
Ultimate Spider-Man > Spider-Man 2099 > Anti-Venom (Beast) > Anti-Venom > Amazing Spider-Man
Each Spider-Man in SD has an emphasis on a certain attribute. Amazing Spider-Man's is agility. Spider-Man 2099's is speed. Ultimate Spider-Man's is power. Spider-Man Noir's is stealth. These are all reflected in their play styles to distinctively give off the idea of how each differentiate from one another. In regards to speed, Ultimate Spider-Man can keep up with Electro who moves at the speed of light. 2099's Charge Attack moves at light speed, though what's significant about this is how the attack strikes at multiple enemies while performing this move. Given the enemies are often at different positions, Miguel is in fact reacting in time and isn't just moving in a straight line. Spider-Man Noir can roll out of the way of Tommy Gun fire well after the bullets are fired at him. As for Amazing Spider-Man, this is the one character I'm not sure about regarding his speed. He can clearly dodge automatic gunfire, but that may or may not be the low end of what he's capable of
Intelligence:
Amazing Spider-Man
Extraordinary Genius (Worked with Miguel O'Hara to fix a time travelling portal. Should have the same level of intellectual prowess as The CEO, an evil version of himself that created an anti-aging formula as well as a device that could not only time travel, but would have also shattered the fabric of space and time. Held a scientific prowess early in his life. Educated in physics and biochemistry. Took down Kraven's disciples with ease. His first victory over Kraven was enough to be seen as a humiliation, causing the hunter's disciples to abandon him. Defeated several members of Silver Sable's Wild Pack and is typically responsible for the very few failures the mercenary group are tasked with completing. Won against Juggernaut whereas Silver Sable and her Wild Pack struggled to even keep him in one location due to his sheer power. Partook in a secret war against Latveria alongside Wolverine, Daredevil, Captain America, and Luke Cage)
Spider-Man 2099
Extraordinary Genius (Was sent to Alchemax School for Gifted Youngsters as a child, which taught the "best and brightest" for a career at Alchemax. Miguel would earn his career as the head of a program designed to create super-powered individuals. Holds an advanced degree in genetics. Easily identified how Hobgoblin's wings were constructed just by taking a closer look at them when the villain was knocked out. Created a Chronal link program in an incredibly short time, which allowed Miguel to communicate with Peter through time itself. Easily grasped the mechanics of Quantum Causality as it unexpectedly occurred during the events in Edge of Time. Worked with Peter Parker to fix a time travelling portal. Commonly makes short work of the Public Eye's forces. Continues to grow in his skill, such as how in his early days a S.I.E.G.E. officer would be difficult to defeat, only for them to become far more manageable as shown during the Shattered Dimensions Crisis. Despite their unpredictability, Spider-Man managed to use Atrocity's tentacles entering through space and time as an advantage in his battle against The CEO)
Ultimate Spider-Man
Genius (Created his own web-shooters. Should share a similar, if not greater intelligence than his father who created the Symbiote alongside his colleague in an attempt to cure cancer. Was more skilled than Deadpool, a Gulf War veteran skilled in black ops missions and assassinations known for killing mutants, with Spider-Man dominating him in their first battle to the point where the assassin fled out of cowardice. Implied to have fought Reavers on Kraktoa Island alongside the X-Men. Overcame Carnage and his Symbiotic army that were wreaking havoc on SHIELD and even managed to crash their Helicarriers, only having limited assistance from the agency in combating the threats. While wearing the Black Suit, Peter defeated Spider-Slayer Mark II robots, which were primarily designed to target Symbiotes such as Venom and Carnage with weaponry that exploits their weaknesses)
Spider-Man Noir
Gifted (Despite waging a one man war on crime, Peter is incredibly effective as a superhero. His stealth has proven to be incredibly difficult for several criminals to deal with as Spider-Man often takes out large areas guarded by armed men all while going unseen and saving hostages at the same time. When ambushed by several gang members at a train track, Spider-Man defeated each one with ease and dodge oncoming trains at the same time. Vulture feared Peter and favoured either fleeing or striking up a deal with him more often than he resorted to facing him in direct combat. Even after gaining the ability to teleport thanks to the fragment's powers, Spider-Man defeated Vulture. Defeated Norman Osborn even after he empowered himself to the point where he could not be defeated regularly, thus ending his criminal empire)
Abilities:
Amazing Spider-Man:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery, Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight. Knew precisely where Kraven was sniping from, using this to direct his shots into trees while fighting off the villain's trained disciples), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Weapon Creation (Can shape his webbing into large hammers and spiked weaponry), Limited Acausality (Although Peter was affected by Walker Sloan changing the timeline, he's still displayed a degree of temporal immunity and Miguel has implied that Parker's knowledge of the alteration is mentally repressed. Peter was capable of heading to the year of 2099 and interacting with his evil future self. Changes made through the quantum causality are remembered and utilized by both Miguel and Peter as to help one another out in certain scenarios. Once revising the timeline to its original state, Spider-Man did not lose his memory of the previous temporal alterations and reattained his knowledge of history's original course), Damage Boost (Can increase the power of his strikes with Web Punches), Afterimage Creation and Intangibility (Hyper-Sense allows Spider-Man to run through opponents lasers and opponents unharmed, as well as leave behind a trail of afterimages. Moves fast enough to create afterimages when performing the Eight-Legged Fury), Time Stop (Time Paradox allows Peter to briefly freeze time for his opponents within a specific range)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Extreme Temperatures and Radiation (The Future Foundation Suit is built with unstable molecules which should share the same properties that allow it to withstand space's extreme conditions as they do in canon)
Spider-Man 2099:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Natural Weaponry, Stealth Mastery (Easily snuck into Alchemax without being noticed), Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens with the newly bestowed Spider-Man. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Perception Manipulation (With Accelerated Vision, time seemingly slows down for Miguel, allowing him to more easily dodge or redirect homing missiles and outspeed enemies effortlessly), Acausality (Type 1; Even as time changed before his very eyes by Walker Sloan, he was completely unaffected by it. Changes made through the quantum causality are remembered and utilized by both Miguel and Peter as to help one another out in certain scenarios. Once revising the timeline to its original state, O'Hara did not lose his memory of the previous temporal alterations), Afterimage Creation and Summoning (Miguel's Accelerated Decoy gives off the illusion that he's in two places at once, often confusing his opponents. His Decoy Strike allows decoys to rush at enemies and pull them towards Miguel), Time Stop (Time Paradox allows Miguel to briefly freeze time for his opponents within a specific range), Limited Resistance to Radiation Manipulation (Miguel's Spider-Man suit provides a small degree of protection to high levels of radiation)
Ultimate Spider-Man (SD):
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Web Creation, Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Statistics Amplification (Was granted the Symbiote as to enhance his abilities and physical attributes without the risk of losing control), Rage Power, Elasticity and Shapeshifting (Can use the Symbiote to stretch out tendrils and form spikes from his body), Non-Physical Interaction (Can harm and defeat creatures made of pure energy), Resistance to Corruption (Granted the ability to safely don the Black Suit without becoming violent and uncontrollable), Empathic Manipulation (Spider-Man is capable of utilizing the power from rage boosts without losing himself to aggressive emotions)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (Was made aware of the insulated Electro-Proof Suit's existence by Madame Web and even has the option to attain it supposedly)
Spider-Man Noir (SD):
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Martial Arts, Stealth Mastery (Between the alternate Spider-Men he worked with, Noir excels the most at stealth, above the likes of Spider-Man 2099 who snuck into Alchemax with ease. Noir's utilizes the darkness provided by the shadows to such a degree that he can stand a few meters from a group of threats without even a hint of his presence. Followed Hammerhead and his men, taking out his forces without being noticed. Even when Hammerhead blasted apart large portions of cover with gunfire and had large spotlights scanning the area, Noir landed three sneak attacks on the villain. Took down alleyways patrolled by henchmen and avoided spotlights while climbing on building walls while tracking Vulture. Quietly took out a carnival heavily guarded with armed criminals while freeing hostages), Web Creation (While he had already possessed the ability to use webbing, Madame Web enhanced this ability significantly), Surface Scaling, Precognition (Can detect danger before it happens. Capable of sensing whenever enemies are going to counter his own attacks and alerts Spider-Man of ideal moments to counter), Enhanced Senses (Madame Web augmented all of the Spider-Men's Spider-Senses, allowing them to detect their surroundings, including individuals around them, structural weakpoints, and environmental objects relevant to current tasks. Can see through solid surfaces, smoke, and darkness as well as recognize specific people even when not directly in sight. Easily fought off several gang members attack him from pitch black locations. Had no trouble taking down three crooks after having gas briefly weaken his senses), Shockwave Creation (The Spider Stomp unleashes a shockwave that harms and pushes back surrounding targets), Regeneration (Low; All four Spider-Men have regeneration), Air Manipulation (The Noir Whirlwind Punch unleashes air based strikes. The Black Gust attacks allow enemies to "feel the power of the wind", sending nearby targets into the air), Afterimage Creation (Moves fast enough to create afterimages when performing the Eight-Legged Fury)
Optional Equipment: Resistance to Antimatter Manipulation (Has access to the Negative Zone Suit, which allows its wearer to safely navigate the Negative Zone which likely holds the same properties as it does in canon)
Scaling Chain
Ultimate Spider-Man > Spider-Man 2099 > Anti-Venom (Beast) > Anti-Venom > Amazing Spider-Man
Each Spider-Man in SD has an emphasis on a certain attribute. Amazing Spider-Man's is agility. Spider-Man 2099's is speed. Ultimate Spider-Man's is power. Spider-Man Noir's is stealth. These are all reflected in their play styles to distinctively give off the idea of how each differentiate from one another. In regards to speed, Ultimate Spider-Man can keep up with Electro who moves at the speed of light. 2099's Charge Attack moves at light speed, though what's significant about this is how the attack strikes at multiple enemies while performing this move. Given the enemies are often at different positions, Miguel is in fact reacting in time and isn't just moving in a straight line. Spider-Man Noir can roll out of the way of Tommy Gun fire well after the bullets are fired at him. As for Amazing Spider-Man, this is the one character I'm not sure about regarding his speed. He can clearly dodge automatic gunfire, but that may or may not be the low end of what he's capable of
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Got some more supporting evidence for Spider-Man 2099 being superior to Amazing Spider-Man in SD/EoT. There's a point in Edge of Time where the two switch their temporal locations meaning O'Hara is in the modern age and Parker is in 2099. Peter comments on how certain enemies in the year 2099 are significantly more difficult to take on compared to the fodder he usually faces. These are the same type of threats that O'Hara takes on more easily. Along with this, Alchemax's security is something that Peter admits he can't get across without some assistance. Note that O'Hara commonly deals with Alchemax's security measures. Miguel has to use Quantum Causality to assist Peter in both cases
There's also the case of how Felicia Hardy in 2099 has all of her prior skill and experience mixed with the DNA of Tigra, real felines, and Vanisher. Amazing Spider-Man comments after their fight that Black Cat performed better than she had in the past so its pretty clear that threats in 2099 are above the likes of what Peter usually faces
There's also the case of how Felicia Hardy in 2099 has all of her prior skill and experience mixed with the DNA of Tigra, real felines, and Vanisher. Amazing Spider-Man comments after their fight that Black Cat performed better than she had in the past so its pretty clear that threats in 2099 are above the likes of what Peter usually faces
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I am glad the SD/EoT verse is getting more and more recognition. Or wouldn't be verse's? Since these are multiple universes happening in SD.
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I guess once we get to them we could add the game's Miguel to a Spider-Man 2099 tabber and name his page "Spider-Man 2099 (SD)"
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Wouldn't it be "Spider-Man 2099 (SD/EoT)"?
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“(Shattered Dimensions)” should be fine. Edge of Time is a sequel so it doesn’t contradict anything. Plus just to make things clear, we can mention how he’s also in Edge of Time for his bio
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Well he was in SD first and that's what I'd personally care the verse's page. Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions was also the more popular game iirc
