- 33,408
- 8,430
I am supposed to be on break and as such I will simply be posting this thread and not really commenting on it. So this will be part 2 in our Soul Calibur Revisions. Here we will deal strictly in New Timeline scaling (Tiering for Original Timeline Low Tiers will be discussed at a later date).
Top Tiers: At least Low 6-B, possibly 6-B or higher (Azwel noted that the current Ultimate Seed could destroy a country or two, so at the very least Germany was used as a low ball, but he still does mention two countries, so it isn't limited to just Germany)
Those who scale as a Top Tier: Soul Charge Azwel, End Game Conduit, Sophitia, Cervantes, Nightmare/Inferno, Siegfried, Groh (Libra of Souls) and Zasalamel.
Mid Tiers: At least High 6-C+, likely higher (Took Kilik and Xianghua combined to defeat Nightmare and Inferno)
Those who scale as a Mid Tier: Kilik, Xianghua, Ivy, Taki, Mitsurugi, Geralt, Hwang, Maxi, Astaroth, Hilde, The Conduit, Tira, Azwel, Yoshimitsu and Voldo.
Low Tiers: High 6-C (While weaker than Mid Tiers overall, they are capable of at least competing with them in combat. This is shown when even though he wasn't going all out, Amy was still able to fight and decently harm Azwel)
Those who scale as a Low Tier: Talim, Seong Mi-na, Raphael, Amy, 2B, Haohmaru, Cassandra.
Setsuka: Setsuka is a tricky case as by all means, she lacks the feats of fighting Mid Tiers or higher. However, she managed to defeat Malfested Gyobu who would be far stronger than he was normally. Gyobu in base is in fact weaker than Mitsurugi and Shugen, but the gap between them is obviously shortened due to the sheer power a Soul Edge shard grants. There is also Gyobu's quote of her skill being "unmatched" which would somewhat compare her to Shugen, especially seeing as how Gyobu knew how strong and skilled Shugen was. Due to the weird nature of Setsuka, she will be ranked as "At least High 6-C, possibly higher". Of course, this will be without the "+".
Now while Low Tiers are pretty self explanatory, I will go into the justifications for Top and Mid Tier scaling.
Sophitia: Consistently shown to be capable of matching and keeping up with the end game Conduit who is able to fight and gravely injure Azwel even without Soul Calibur or Soul Edge.
Siegfried: Fought with Sophitia. Constantly fights against Inferno in order to prevent Soul Calibur from completely being consumed by it.
Nightmare: Should be superior to the likes of Acht and Gabok by a great deal. Wields Soul Edge which has enough power to critically damage Soul Charge Azwel.
Zasalamel: Matched end game Conduit evenly. Can consistently fight on par with Tira and mid tier characters without even trying.
Cervantes: Can fight on par with the end game Conduit. Easily defeated Ivy.
Groh (End of Libra of Souls): Forced The Conduit to retreat in their first encounter due to his power. Later fought as more powerful Conduit.
Groh: Consistently portrayed as on par with The Conduit. Can match Kilik.
Base Azwel: Comparable to The Conduit.
Kilik: With the help of Xianghua, he managed to defeat Nightmare and Inferno.
Xianghua: With the help of Kilik, she managed to defeat Nightmare and Inferno.
Maxi: Comparable to Kilik. Fought and defeated Astaroth.
Astaroth: Fought with Ivy evenly.
Ivy: Fought and matched Xianghua. Fought and matched Taki and The Conduit as well.
Voldo: Fought and matched Ivy.
Taki: Killed a weakened Cervantes. Fought against The Conduit and matched Malfested Kilik and Xianghua.
Mitsurugi: Fought and defeated Taki. Can match The Conduit.
Geralt: Fought and matched The Conduit. Fought Mitsurugi and defeated him.
Yoshimitsu: Fought the likes of Maxi, Taki and The Conduit.
Tira: Fought and matched The Conduit.
Hwang: Could fight Gabok fused with Acht for an extended period of time. Superior to Seong Mi-na and should be on par with base Gabok.
-Mind Manipulation
-Madness Manipulation (Type 2)
-Corruption
-Chaos Manipulation
-Statistics Reduction (Astral Chaos is stated to usually weaken those who enter)
And it is also directly stated that the Power of Chaos instead strengthens him and as such, he should gain Chaos Manipulation, Statistics Amplification and Accelerated Development when exposed to the Power of Chaos.
This should be everything for this revision.
New Timeline Scaling
So currently, New TImeline scales to a Tier 7 Weather feat and a Tier 6 destruction based feat. However, it doesn't really make much sense to scale the cast up from Cervantes' Weather feat when many characters throughout Soul Chronicle and Libra of Soul scale down from the likes of Nightmare, Siegfried, The Conduit, etc. There is also the fact that weather feats as a whole are going through a lot of scrutiny. Basically, here is how tiering will go.Top Tiers: At least Low 6-B, possibly 6-B or higher (Azwel noted that the current Ultimate Seed could destroy a country or two, so at the very least Germany was used as a low ball, but he still does mention two countries, so it isn't limited to just Germany)
Those who scale as a Top Tier: Soul Charge Azwel, End Game Conduit, Sophitia, Cervantes, Nightmare/Inferno, Siegfried, Groh (Libra of Souls) and Zasalamel.
Mid Tiers: At least High 6-C+, likely higher (Took Kilik and Xianghua combined to defeat Nightmare and Inferno)
Those who scale as a Mid Tier: Kilik, Xianghua, Ivy, Taki, Mitsurugi, Geralt, Hwang, Maxi, Astaroth, Hilde, The Conduit, Tira, Azwel, Yoshimitsu and Voldo.
Low Tiers: High 6-C (While weaker than Mid Tiers overall, they are capable of at least competing with them in combat. This is shown when even though he wasn't going all out, Amy was still able to fight and decently harm Azwel)
Those who scale as a Low Tier: Talim, Seong Mi-na, Raphael, Amy, 2B, Haohmaru, Cassandra.
Setsuka: Setsuka is a tricky case as by all means, she lacks the feats of fighting Mid Tiers or higher. However, she managed to defeat Malfested Gyobu who would be far stronger than he was normally. Gyobu in base is in fact weaker than Mitsurugi and Shugen, but the gap between them is obviously shortened due to the sheer power a Soul Edge shard grants. There is also Gyobu's quote of her skill being "unmatched" which would somewhat compare her to Shugen, especially seeing as how Gyobu knew how strong and skilled Shugen was. Due to the weird nature of Setsuka, she will be ranked as "At least High 6-C, possibly higher". Of course, this will be without the "+".
Now while Low Tiers are pretty self explanatory, I will go into the justifications for Top and Mid Tier scaling.
Top Tier Justifications
The Conduit (Endgame): Fought and defeated both base Azwel and Azwel with the power of the Ultimate Seed. Gains the power of either Soul Edge or Soul Calibur.Sophitia: Consistently shown to be capable of matching and keeping up with the end game Conduit who is able to fight and gravely injure Azwel even without Soul Calibur or Soul Edge.
Siegfried: Fought with Sophitia. Constantly fights against Inferno in order to prevent Soul Calibur from completely being consumed by it.
Nightmare: Should be superior to the likes of Acht and Gabok by a great deal. Wields Soul Edge which has enough power to critically damage Soul Charge Azwel.
Zasalamel: Matched end game Conduit evenly. Can consistently fight on par with Tira and mid tier characters without even trying.
Cervantes: Can fight on par with the end game Conduit. Easily defeated Ivy.
Groh (End of Libra of Souls): Forced The Conduit to retreat in their first encounter due to his power. Later fought as more powerful Conduit.
Mid Tier Justifications
The Conduit: Can fight the likes of Kilik, Maxi, Mitsurugi, Ivy, etc on even grounds.Groh: Consistently portrayed as on par with The Conduit. Can match Kilik.
Base Azwel: Comparable to The Conduit.
Kilik: With the help of Xianghua, he managed to defeat Nightmare and Inferno.
Xianghua: With the help of Kilik, she managed to defeat Nightmare and Inferno.
Maxi: Comparable to Kilik. Fought and defeated Astaroth.
Astaroth: Fought with Ivy evenly.
Ivy: Fought and matched Xianghua. Fought and matched Taki and The Conduit as well.
Voldo: Fought and matched Ivy.
Taki: Killed a weakened Cervantes. Fought against The Conduit and matched Malfested Kilik and Xianghua.
Mitsurugi: Fought and defeated Taki. Can match The Conduit.
Geralt: Fought and matched The Conduit. Fought Mitsurugi and defeated him.
Yoshimitsu: Fought the likes of Maxi, Taki and The Conduit.
Tira: Fought and matched The Conduit.
Hwang: Could fight Gabok fused with Acht for an extended period of time. Superior to Seong Mi-na and should be on par with base Gabok.
Mitsurugi Update
So in the recent Side Story released alongside Hwang's DLC, we see that Mitsurugi in this timeline has some new powers. He is directly resistant to the powers of Astral Chaos. As such he should gain a resistance to the following;-Mind Manipulation
-Madness Manipulation (Type 2)
-Corruption
-Chaos Manipulation
-Statistics Reduction (Astral Chaos is stated to usually weaken those who enter)
And it is also directly stated that the Power of Chaos instead strengthens him and as such, he should gain Chaos Manipulation, Statistics Amplification and Accelerated Development when exposed to the Power of Chaos.
This should be everything for this revision.
