Somewhat Fixing The Soul Calibur Verse

[BlackDarkness679]

Well are there many options given Soul Calibur uses guns from centuries ago with their time period

 

[SamanPatou]

I mean, pretty much all of Soul Calibur is completely anachronistic on many different levels.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

In the following link here, we see Taki seemingly outrun an explosion.

While I don't know the standard speed we use for explosions, but @Dalesean027 pointed me to this source, which says the following:

Looking at these speed ratings, this will upgrade the verse's travelling speed (since Taki outran the explosion) to At least Supersonic+ to High Hypersonic at its peak, depending on which speed is accepted.

Agree for explosion speed.

Now time for the second speed feat we have: Yun-Seong Dodges Lightning.

The following was done by @Psychomaster35, so big thanks to him for helping me out!

Anyways, this calc was already accepted by multiple CGMs, and I already sent some proof to one of them that questioned whether or not the lightning is real. Here's what I showed for clarification purposes (3:39).

If CGM think is good.
I think this is fine.

Inorganic Physiology Addition For Nightmare's 5-C Key:

Pretty basic. Nightmare in his 5-C key should have Inorganic Physiology via him being a suit of armour animated by the will of Soul Edge. Here are some justifications that prove this. Shouldn't be too controversial.

Agree, this is blatant.

In the following links given, New Timeline Cassandra fought and defeated her past self (Old Timeline Cassandra). I feel like this warrants the New Timeline characters possibly scaling to High 6-A based off of this.

I think the New Timeline keys should be labeled as the following:

"At least High 6-C/High 6-C+ [Insert justification here], possibly High 6-A [Should be comparable to Cassandra, who fought and defeated her past self]"

"At least Low 6-B, likely 6-B [Insert justification here], possibly High 6-A [Should be comparable to Cassandra, who fought and defeated her past self]"

Bit iffy...
But I think this need to be considered, personally I think this is fine?

Speed Upgrades:

So the New Timeline keys' speed section is just labeled as 'Unknown', which is kind of ridiculous. The justifications I'm about to show you are a little bit shaky, but I'll try my best in giving a solid explanation.

In Mitsurugi's profile, it states the following:

"That being said, he constantly strove to improve his techniques as he searched for a weapon stronger than Tanegashima. This led him to favor moves that allow him to strike and move quickly when faced with projectile-firing weapons."

It clearly states here that Mitsurugi has found a way to circumvent the disadvantage of facing someone with projectile-firing weapons. Of course, this is fairly vague, but imo, I think it's fairly obvious that this clearly eludes to guns.

I'm not too sure what specific speed we should use for stuff like this, but I feel like this should warrant a speed upgrade. It's better than having UkNOwN speed.

No comment.

Here's the bullet-deflecting feat.

If I have time, I'm going to calc this.
Soul Calibur is one of the fighting games I mostly play because of it's character customization lol.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Here the calc for that samurai

Soul Calibur Bullet speed calc

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Got Subsonic+ reaction speed.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

What about the arrow he slices way before the bullet? Somebody mentioned that one too

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

What about the arrow he slices way before the bullet? Somebody mentioned that one too

The speed will be lower since the arrow are slower than a bullet and the distance is much larger.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Is it by a lot the difference? Could be used as support at worst

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Is it by a lot the difference? Could be used as support at worst

A lot of difference.

 

[Armorchompy]

Distance doesn't really matter since in regards to the arrow his movement can be directly compared, if a bit awkwardly

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Distance doesn't really matter since in regards to the arrow his movement can be directly compared, if a bit awkwardly

It is comparable then?

 

[Armorchompy]

dunno, probably subsonic

 

[RandomGuy2345]

About the High 6-A proposals for the New Timeline keys, wouldn't the New Timeline characters have the same speed stats as the Old Timeline keys, as NT Cassandra was able to fight OT Cassandra, who's Superhuman with Supersonic+ reactions and combat speed?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

About the High 6-A proposals for the New Timeline keys, wouldn't the New Timeline characters have the same speed stats as the Old Timeline keys, as NT Cassandra was able to fight OT Cassandra, who's Superhuman with Supersonic+ reactions and combat speed?

It's a bit iffy.
But okay.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It's a bit iffy.
But okay.

New Timeline Cassandra's speed rating is exact same as Old Timeline Cassandra.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I mean they should be in all stats unless stated or pointed otherwise, some fights may say in a certain regard one is better

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

What about the arrow he slices way before the bullet? Somebody mentioned that one too

A lot of difference.

Actually this particular arrow feat is insanely impressive

Arrows move at around 90m/s and he creates a complete 90 degree swing in the time it takes the arrow to move a few inches

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Actually this particular arrow feat is insanely impressive

Arrows move at around 90m/s and he creates a complete 90 degree swing in the time it takes the arrow to move a few inches

So how would we re-calc it?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

So how would we re-calc it?

It's a separate calc from the bullet one, so there's no problem there

You just need to play the video frame by frame find how far the arrow moved and measure how much he moved in the same timeframe

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It's a separate calc from the bullet one, so there's no problem there

You just need to play the video frame by frame find how far the arrow moved and measure how much he moved in the same timeframe

@Rakih_Elyan or @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson

Whenever any of y'all are free, could you calc the arrow slicing feat for me pls?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

@Rakih_Elyan or @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson

Whenever any of y'all are free, could you calc the arrow slicing feat for me pls?

I got jobs fixing Honkai and Spirit of Eternity Sword revisions.
I don't know when I will be free.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@Rakih_Elyan or @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson

Whenever any of y'all are free, could you calc the arrow slicing feat for me pls?

Ask Dale again instead to be more quick

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Was Ivy kicking Cervantes gun shooting her point blank ever calced?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Was Ivy kicking Cervantes gun shooting her point blank ever calced?

That happened?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

That happened?

Yes its a thing, even death battle had it shown

 

[Stillwinston]

Imma say agree with all the stuff here btw, idk if this helps with speed feats but Mitsu does have a stance in 6 that lets him parry through projectiles iirc

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Dunno how many view these sort of stuff

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yes its a thing, even death battle had it shown

Link?

 

[Stillwinston]

Think the cerv and Ivy gun feat happened in the SC3 Intro right? Ivy is like point blank in front of it iirc. Meant to say do agree with the Op by and large but guess am neutral on speed in the meantime

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Link?

2:11

 

[RandomGuy2345]

2:11

I could've sworn that feat was already calculated.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

2:11

Okay this is definitely way higher than anything so far

might even be hypersonic

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I could've sworn that feat was already calculated.

Idk for sure if here, but i know somewhere was, i think it got hypersonic if remembering vaguely, although it was also the issue of needing to use guns from that time period and all that obviously

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Idk for sure if here, but i know somewhere was, i think it got hypersonic if remembering vaguely, although it was also the issue of needing to use guns from that time period and all that obviously

Just use a flintlock pistol there are plenty of sites that list there speeds

In fact here's one straight from our wiki

Flintlock pistol

Flintlock is a general term for any firearm that uses a flint striking ignition mechanism. The term may also apply to a particular form of the mechanism itself, also known as the true flintlock, that was introduced in the early 17th century, and rapidly replaced earlier firearm-ignition...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Just use a flintlock pistol there are plenty of sites that list there speeds

In fact here's one straight from our wiki

Flintlock pistol

Flintlock is a general term for any firearm that uses a flint striking ignition mechanism. The term may also apply to a particular form of the mechanism itself, also known as the true flintlock, that was introduced in the early 17th century, and rapidly replaced earlier firearm-ignition...

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Yeah. Kicking away a bullet like that will certainly give some solid results (hopefully we can get out of the Superhuman speed hellhole).

 

[Stillwinston]

Add to that Ivy looks to be doing that pretty casually, plus she's fought Cerv as her main rival and Sophitia has fought him too so that should help with scaling I guess

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Yeah. Kicking away a bullet like that will certainly give some solid results (hopefully we can get out of the Superhuman speed hellhole).

She kicked the bullet before it even had time to leave the barrel of the flintlock pistol

It's insanely impressive

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Yeah. Kicking away a bullet like that will certainly give some solid results (hopefully we can get out of the Superhuman speed hellhole).

I mean from the 3 feats brought up and that projectile parry mentioned, im surprised SC kept itself so ******* low

But then again most people dont care of many verses enough to help it even when you try

 

[Stillwinston]

For the projectile parry thing for SC6 here's all the ones Mitsu can counter idk if any of this helps

 

[RandomGuy2345]

For the projectile parry thing for SC6 here's all the ones Mitsu can counter idk if any of this helps

It's a nice supporting feat to say the least.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Also, about the lightning stuff that was debunked earlier:



Sophitia has shown to be able to summon lightning. If the lightning can be proven as legitimate, we can likely find a feat of one of the characters dodging it and calc it.