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Sosuke Aizen vs Asriel Dreemurr

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Ok if everyone is saying Asriel is gonna perform info ee as first move (that never happens in the fight with Frisk, he only activates it at the end of his first phase), Wouldn't Hogyoku's fate manip be a factor on influencing Asriel decisions?
 
Ok if everyone is saying Asriel is gonna perform info ee as first move (that never happens in the fight with Frisk, he only activates it at the end of his first phase), Wouldn't Hogyoku's fate manip be a factor on influencing Asriel decisions?
How exactly? 🧐 Can you explain it to us in more detail?
 
How exactly? 🧐 Can you explain it to us in more detail?
Since the Hogyoku's fate manipulation allows Aizen to wish whatever he desires as long it's within his own abilities, couldn't it alter Aizen's kyoka suigetsu to alter Asriel's senses of vision, perception of time and etc to alter Asriel decision of info nuking everything?
 
Since the Hogyoku's fate manipulation allows Aizen to wish whatever he desires as long it's within his own abilities, couldn't it alter Aizen's kyoka suigetsu to alter Asriel's senses of vision, perception of time and etc to alter Asriel decision of info nuking everything?
No? Why would it matter if Asriel can't feel anything or not? The individual in question is trying to nuke the verse, not a person.
 
(that never happens in the fight with Frisk, he only activates it at the end of his first phase),
The only reason he didn't nuke the verse instantly is because he thought he was talking to his best friend, and since there's no Chara here nor someone who reminds him of Chara, he has no reason to talk.
 
No? Why would it matter if Asriel can't feel anything or not? The individual in question is trying to nuke the verse, not a person.
The only reason he didn't nuke the verse instantly is because he thought he was talking to his best friend, and since there's no Chara here nor someone who reminds him of Chara, he has no reason to talk.
This is the thing I'm focused on. The Kyoka Suigetsu enhanced by the Hogyoku's fate manip make it seem there's a chara which influence Asriel's nuking decision
 
This is the thing I'm focused on. The Kyoka Suigetsu enhanced by the Hogyoku's fate manip make it seem there's a chara which influence Asriel's nuking decision
Imma hold your hand when I say this, but putting a Galaxy tier Aizen (3-C) against a Multiverse tier asriel (2-B) is not a good idea dude. Theres a reason why tiers exist.
 
Imma hold your hand when I say this, but putting a Galaxy tier Aizen (3-C) against a Multiverse tier asriel (2-B) is not a good idea dude. Theres a reason why tiers exist.
The abilities/hax is what effects the outcome more likely unless the one with higher tier has hde
 
No? Why would it matter if Asriel can't feel anything or not? The individual in question is trying to nuke the verse, not a person.
This. People seem to forget that Asriel started to be able to feel anything only after that Frisk started to "save" him after helping the SOULs inside him, and thus reawakening said emotions.

Aizen can't do that at all.
 
Does Aizen even have anything close to a win-con?

Between Erasure, Soul Absorption, and just... deciding to breath on him particularly hard, Asriel stomps sp hard it's not even funny
 
Because Frisk specifically resists said EE and their DT prevented Asriel from using most of his abilities.

Did you play Undertale or Abovestory?
Then why Asriel uses his info ee anyway at the end of the phase 1 fight (the hypergoner)
This. People seem to forget that Asriel started to be able to feel anything only after that Frisk started to "save" him after helping the SOULs inside him, and thus reawakening said emotions.

Aizen can't do that at all.
He could with the help of Hogyoku's fate manip and mind reading which both are passive
 
Then why Asriel uses his info ee anyway at the end of the phase 1 fight (the hypergoner)
Most likely used as a last resort attack. But as you can see.. it didn't work dude.
He could with the help of Hogyoku's fate manip and mind reading which both are passive
Yeah nah lolol Asriel can erase entire timelines with her attacks bro.
 
That was one of his attacks while he was casual, and it didn't work.

Against Aizen he has no reason to be casual as he doesn't have a personal vendetta against him.
Then Aizen would perform this
This is the thing I'm focused on. The Kyoka Suigetsu enhanced by the Hogyoku's fate manip make it seem there's a chara which influence Asriel's nuking decision
A good example of Hogyoku altering/enhancing Aizen's illusions is when Aizen put Yhwach under illusions. It's the same Yhwach who can see infinite possibilities into the future with the later not even noticing it
 
He can't if he's nuked from KMS away.

You act as if Asriel is gonna just stand there like an imbecile 💀
Aizen's reiatsu has uni range so it would effect him

Asriel would see Chara as soon as Aizen converts his reiatsu and alter his perception of time. So Asriel would go hesitate
 
Aizen has no clue what a Chara is, and Asriel would definitely notice a lack of DT and use True Reset anyways
You talk as if I already didn't tell that.

Honestly it feels like an uphill battle, it's been 7 people until now who are telling this to OP, but feels like they won't be satisfied by anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

Besides they're already reported so I'm not gonna waste more time on this.
 
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