Sora vs Rimuru

[Medaka619]

Yeah, bu I mean for the Regen Negation

"[[Regeneration]] [[Negation]] (Up to High-Godly), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] (Type 1. Beelezbub can eat the concept of time if run amok.)"

Unless they can just stack or so, I guess, but yeah, the current description of that part of CM is hardly even CM given how vague it is to say the least.

I can tell you this much, there’s people with High godly regeneration like Yuuki and Rimuru can absorb them and negate their regen through such, preventing them from coming back. Pretty much sums it up, unless there’s any other attacks he has which can do the same

 

[DigiAnymore]

Ya, maksud saya untuk Negasi Regen

"[[Regenerasi]] [[Negasi]] (Hingga Ketuhanan Tinggi), [[Manipulasi Konseptual]] (Tipe 1. Beelezbub bisa memakan konsep waktu jika mengamuk.)"

Kecuali jika mereka hanya dapat menumpuk atau lebih, saya kira, tapi ya, deskripsi saat ini dari bagian CM itu bahkan hampir tidak CM mengingat betapa kaburnya untuk sedikitnya.

Well Beelzebuth can eat Great Spirit Of Time, where Great Spirit is Concept type 1 in Tensei Shittara Slime, because Great Spirit are aspect that make up/govern the World and Reality, and unbound by reality because Great Spirits of Light & Darkness which exist before Reality and give birth to Reality (Time) to move the World, and Ramiris also explained that Light & Darkness will wipe out the world, but other Great Spirits will still exist such as Time, Earth, Water etc. (Chp 62)

 

[Bobsican]

So you're basically saying that "time" in context refers to basically a type 1 concept? If so, I guess that much is fine, but the wording on the page could be upgraded further in any case on that regard.

 

[Dereck03]

So you're basically saying that "time" in context refers to basically a type 1 concept? If so, I guess that much is fine, but the wording on the page could be upgraded further in any case on that regard.

You can read this if you have doubts regarding that topic

 

[Bobsican]

By the way, does Rimuru has type 2 info manip? The type isn't specified on the page, and that'd be required to properly interact with Sora's concept as it's nature also falls as type 2 information, in fact it may be a bit outdated as the standards on that power changed quite a lot a few months ago

 

[Medaka619]

By the way, does Rimuru has type 2 info manip? That'd be required to properly interact with Sora's concept as it's nature also falls as type 2 information.

Yes all things in tensura are made up of information and Rimuru can interact with that information or even absorb it

 

[Orioreeem]

Information in Tensura is type 2, he even has high godly because he can come back from its destruction.

 

[Bobsican]

Anyways, after checking the page carefully, I think Sora could resist the radiation manip, as it appears it technically isn't even radiation, and the effects are covered by his resistance to Transmutation, and more importantly Sora's clothes absorbing the magic around him, so that'd just strengthen him if anything from what I'm looking.

Can anyone be more specific on how the life manip and supernatural luck work?

 

[DigiAnymore]

So you're basically saying that "time" in context refers to basically a type 1 concept? If so, I guess that much is fine, but the wording on the page could be upgraded further in any case on that regard.

yea, because that Great Spirit Of Time

 

[DigiAnymore]

By the way, does Rimuru has type 2 info manip? The type isn't specified on the page, and that'd be required to properly interact with Sora's concept as it's nature also falls as type 2 information, in fact it may be a bit outdated as the standards on that power changed quite a lot a few months ago

yea

 

[Medaka619]

Anyways, after checking the page carefully, I think Sora could resist the radiation manip, as it appears it technically isn't even radiation, and the effects are covered by his resistance to Transmutation, and more importantly Sora's clothes absorbing the magic around him, so that'd just strengthen him if anything from what I'm looking.

Can anyone be more specific on how the life manip and supernatural luck work?

Tbh does it matter since most of Rimuru’s Passives negates resistances, for him to even be safe in front of his presence? The battle will be over before it began, and apparently Sora has no Layered resistances.

And for his luck manipulation well it comes from Masayuki

• Luck (Chosen One, he's so lucky that attacks that he made will always land and attacks that will hit Rimuru will miss. Makes Rimuru's attack crit all the time. Pierces resistance)

• Social Influencing (Messiah, on a country-scale at least, makes other not fight, join him, surrender, charmed, etc.)

• Probability Manip (Messiah, lower other's hit chance that even 100% chance will miss. Pierces resistance)

There’s also passive causality manipulation which I don’t see him resisting

• Causality Manip (Susanoo, always grants Rimuru the first hit due to the causality system being in his favor. Works on Acausal type 4 such as Dagruel)

 

[Bobsican]

Well, it could depending on how the planned CRT goes, I was mostly asking just to be aware on the semantics and all.

How many layers above baseline is Rimuru's time stop resistance? Would it be usable to ignore the probability/luck stuff in the scenario it could work?

Anyways, per certain hax revisions, it really sounds like that Social Influencing is "baseline" now, as we no longer inherently relate the potency of a hax ability to how many it affects out of just being range, let alone compared to an actual resistance to begin with, not that such thing is around here right now.

But yeah, as said before I'd rather keep this in hiatus until other KH revisions are done so this isn't just a haxstomp.

 

[Medaka619]

Well, it could depending on how the planned CRT goes, I was mostly asking just to be aware on the semantics and all.

How many layers above baseline is Rimuru's time stop resistance? Would it be usable to ignore the probability/luck stuff in the scenario it could work?

Anyways, per certain hax revisions, it really sounds like that Social Influencing is "baseline" now, as we no longer inherently relate the potency of a hax ability to how many it affects out of just being range, let alone compared to an actual resistance to begin with, not that such thing is around here right now.

But yeah, as said before I'd rather keep this in hiatus until other KH revisions are done so this isn't just a haxstomp.

Fair

 

[DigiAnymore]

Well, it could depending on how the planned CRT goes, I was mostly asking just to be aware on the semantics and all.

How many layers above baseline is Rimuru's time stop resistance? Would it be usable to ignore the probability/luck stuff in the scenario it could work?

Anyways, per certain hax revisions, it really sounds like that Social Influencing is "baseline" now, as we no longer inherently relate the potency of a hax ability to how many it affects out of just being range, let alone compared to an actual resistance to begin with, not that such thing is around here right now.

But yeah, as said before I'd rather keep this in hiatus until other KH revisions are done so this isn't just a haxstomp.

don't know about rimuru resist time stop how many layers, but rimuru resistance to resistance negation (idk about layer tho) because rimuru analyzes Yuuki who uses Primitive Magic, and Yuuki uses Primitive Magic to Gii Crimson and makes Gii Crimson unable to move (Time Stop) which should be Gii itself resist time stop, And Other Resistance Negation example Resistance Negation to Power Null, Absorption and etc

 

[Orioreeem]

Anyways, per certain hax revisions, it really sounds like that Social Influencing is "baseline" now, as we no longer inherently relate the potency of a hax ability to how many it affects out of just being range, let alone compared to an actual resistance to begin with, not that such thing is around here right now.

It is baseline now same goes for mind and soul

 

[Sonicflare9]

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[Bernkastelll]

Yeah, bu I mean for the Regen Negation

"[[Regeneration]] [[Negation]] (Up to High-Godly), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] (Type 1. Beelezbub can eat the concept of time if run amok.)"

Unless they can just stack or so, I guess, but yeah, the current description of that part of CM is hardly even CM given how vague it is to say the least.

thats the CM via Absorption, he has other ways to use CM, such as Turn Null, that can destroy and create everything in TenSura, of course, including the concepts

 

[Sonicflare9]

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