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You should be able to.

But not in the case of SMT, since I'm pretty sure the whole thing is that their concepts exist in the Axiom or smth, so that's not happening.
 
Well then Kagutsuchi takes this, as he has his own conceptual manipulation type 2. And dare I say it might even be a stomp.
 
MYHERO said:
Quick question, can you bypass type 8 with conceptual manipulation type 2?
Depends on if it means you can punch out concepts with it

Which I think Sonic can do, problem is, he can't outpunch High Godly from my understanding.
 
Pretty sure Kagutsuchi only having Mid-Godly is an error. Literally every other gods and demons in SMT have High-Godly.
 
Sonic actualy resists a lot of his big powers, but he can't kill him.

Power nulling could actualy incap Kagu, but that's a big maybe.

On the other hand, Kagu one-shots...

But Holy manipulation is gonna do a big number on him...

Give me a second, this is actualy a pretty cool fight. Good stuff Cal.
 
Anyone above Kagutsuchi has High Godly because it's Death destroyed the Multiverse and those higher then it regened from that. According to the blog.
 
@Hero Sonic resists that as well, but not to an infinitely above baseline degree. You're right that it would get rid of Sonic.
 
That reminds me. Why does Sonic have resistance to conceptual manipulation from the SGW when he tanked it although it only destroys concepts when it well...destroys? What I'm teying to get at is it would only be resistance if it could affect things on a conceptual level without destruction. Same reason why you don't resist soul manipulation (anymore) for tanking a punch that can destroy souls if it kills them.
 
The real cal howard said:
That reminds me. Why does Sonic have resistance to conceptual manipulation from the SGW when he tanked it although it only destroys concepts when it well...destroys? What I'm teying to get at is it would only be resistance if it could affect things on a conceptual level without destruction. Same reason why you don't resist soul manipulation (anymore) for tanking a punch that can destroy souls if it kills them.
CRT pls.
 
Nah, you were right on the money. I'm a spiteful S.O.B. I just wanted to make a fair match for the Sonic fans that I have come to like ovo (in all seriousness, despite not seeing eye to eye I do like all of you guys).
 
@Cal No kidding, you warmed my heart with that. But yeah, my love for a character wouldn't take precedence over the VSBW members I've come to call friends.

spiteful swine
 
I remember UltimaReality himself saying that Kagutsuchi doesn't have High-Godly, but I myself don't know why.

But he can just one-shot.

And that Holy Manipulation won't really do anything to an avatar of the holiest being ever.
 
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