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True. Though as for Mario, that is only if they are trying to scale Mario and Luigi to Dreamy Bowser and Zeekeeper.Dark649 said:
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Sonic the Hedgehog Revision Project
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But the Chaos Emeralds should be stronger than any machines Eggman can create, as he constantly seeks them for his power. That's why the Super forms were upgraded to 5-A, likely 4-A several months ago.
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We are kind of getting off topic here.
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Eclipse Canon? The one that was calced at Planet level?
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That feat is impossible to be only continent level, piercing the stars implies 4-C to 4-A power. He was like more referring to the feat that was used with Shadow Emeralds to destroy the President House and everything around it, but that's more like Country level.
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I'm only unsure about the Chaotix scaling to Modern Sonic since they haven't been active since Sonic Heroes (I think) but since Forces may change that.
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The Chaotix fought Team Dark, Team Amy and tried to distract Metal Overlord in Heroes. In Shadow the Hedgehog Espio helped Shadow fight Eggman while Vector Black Doom in the infamous computer room. Lastly they are part of the resistance and that's about them. I hope to see them fight again after a long time since they will contribute to save the planet.
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'''This is a STAFF ONLY thread. ''Don't'' derail it with irrelevant nonsense.'''
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Jesus, what happened.
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...So
@Matt
What tiers do you think all of Sonic's forms should have?
@Matt
What tiers do you think all of Sonic's forms should have?
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Super Sonic: 4-A to Low 2-C
Hyper Sonic: Unknown
Darkspine Sonic: Low 2-C
Excalibur Sonic: At least 5-A, likely 4-A
Hyper Sonic: Unknown
Darkspine Sonic: Low 2-C
Excalibur Sonic: At least 5-A, likely 4-A
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1. Maybe this was addressed early, but if we're doing this variable Super Sonic tier then what are we going to put those with no feats besides fighting Super Sonic at?
2. So all of Sonic's friends are going to be Tier 5?
3. I entirely agree with Solaris being 2-C.
4. @Matt Why wouldn't Super Sonic's max be 2-C via defeating Solaris?
2. So all of Sonic's friends are going to be Tier 5?
3. I entirely agree with Solaris being 2-C.
4. @Matt Why wouldn't Super Sonic's max be 2-C via defeating Solaris?
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@Ryu
1. At the minimum Tier for Super Sonic, 4-A.
2. Not all of them, only the most notable, I think.
4. I think that it is because Solaris was defeated through the combined effort of three Low 2-Cs. They shouldn't be 2-C individually.
1. At the minimum Tier for Super Sonic, 4-A.
2. Not all of them, only the most notable, I think.
4. I think that it is because Solaris was defeated through the combined effort of three Low 2-Cs. They shouldn't be 2-C individually.
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We treat the gap between Low 2-C and 2-C so great that people who can perform Low 2-C feats with a heartbeat, a breath of air or a mere thought are treated as still weaker than 2-Cs. People have been rated as 2-C for simply making a paper cut on another 2-C. If Sonic was able to actually defeat a 2-C, even if he needed 2 other guys helping him, he should be 2-C in my opinion.
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I knew you would have said this. @w@
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I'm pretty sure some of the above comments said that Sonic stated he outright couldn't beat Solaris by himself and stood no chance, in addition to all of them only harming his consciousness and not his actual body.
Again, apparently.
Again, apparently.
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@Matt Because it's true. If somebody defeated a 4-A with 2 people helping him we'd still rate him as 4-A since we'd say that he wouldn't have been able to contribute to their defeat at all if he was over a trillion times weaker. Why wouldn't we do that for a 2-C if we treat that gap as astronomically larger?
@Ever If they only defeated him through those means, then I can agree with not scaling AP.
@Ever If they only defeated him through those means, then I can agree with not scaling AP.
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They couldn't permanently defeat Solaris. Only by harming his heart they could.
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Iirc, yes.
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Okay, but it should be noted that 2-C Sonic is the highest end possible for Super Sonic.
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To scale Excalibur Base Sonic and his empowered state we need to use the feats told in the book and not scale him to the current Sonic inverse. Hyper Sonic is at least 4-A, but since this form is still ambigusly canon, we should not consider it.
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