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An Super Sonic never outran the Egg Blaster eitherRyukama said:
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Sonic: Speed question
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He was indeed breaking dow. Tails outright said he couldn't contain the energy.
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You are being overly argumentative and don't seem to be considering the opinions of others. Ryu never said Sonic outran the blaster. Either way, more input would be appreciated.
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Apologies but the fact still remains the justification behind Hyper Sonics MFTL+ rating is honestly dubious
Although him being High 4-C might be okay, I suppose
Although him being High 4-C might be okay, I suppose
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That's perfectly fine. We've both relayed our opinions now it's simply for the rest of the staff to make a decision. I do insist though, that though the speed rating is undoubtedly dubious I see no issue with it scaling to Sonic's attack speed for the aforementioned reasons.
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what attack speed? It was an AoE attack that was never replicated even remotely recreated to a similar speed, so it may very well simply be an outlier regardless.
I think it could scale to his power however
I think it could scale to his power however
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That is not a legitimate calc considering it's just an aesthetic that shows up whenever you go to boss stages in Sonic Rush, usually in Base btw
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-It's not an aesthetic at all. The animation isn't even slightly comparable considering in one case, it's just nonsense streaks of light, while in the latter it's definable cosmological structures.
-We're already aware that in this moment they travelled to space considering Eggman was located in a tear of reality between Worlds. In all other cases, there's no evidence they even left the area.
-It's not just a Game Mechanic either. It's actually an integral part of the storyline and cutscene where the destination, the tear of reality, is actually visible and isn't just a represented by a white light as in every other case.
-We're already aware that in this moment they travelled to space considering Eggman was located in a tear of reality between Worlds. In all other cases, there's no evidence they even left the area.
-It's not just a Game Mechanic either. It's actually an integral part of the storyline and cutscene where the destination, the tear of reality, is actually visible and isn't just a represented by a white light as in every other case.
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Its an outlier regardless.
I've played that game (it's awesome) and I remember it was like a tear in space time or so, so while this is assumption the structures could simply have closed distance
That is not the tear in reality. Their going to where their worlds meet which was between the tear in reality between both worlds, effectively a boom tube.
I've played that game (it's awesome) and I remember it was like a tear in space time or so, so while this is assumption the structures could simply have closed distance
That is not the tear in reality. Their going to where their worlds meet which was between the tear in reality between both worlds, effectively a boom tube.
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well Hyper is a much more powerful form than super and the chaos emeralds did power the egg blaster to the point where they reached a star system in seconds
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Not for the franchise where immeasurable and omnipresent speeds exist. For the character? Possibly. There's nothing to compare to. The only thing we know about Super Sonic is he's faster than base.
It was awesome. The Music was simply to die for.
Assumption, and a faulty one as they weren't even within the tear.
Dr.Eggman specifically said the area there, was stable and tears of reality are effectively portals. The worlds joining there actually acts as evidence.
Redgrave also made a good point.
It was awesome. The Music was simply to die for.
Assumption, and a faulty one as they weren't even within the tear.
Dr.Eggman specifically said the area there, was stable and tears of reality are effectively portals. The worlds joining there actually acts as evidence.
Redgrave also made a good point.
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Super Shadow, Super and Hyper Knuckles, Super Tails, Burning Blaze as she actually did the feat, Super and Hyper Sonic, Devil Doom, Final Hazard, Metal Madness, Mecha Sonic, Dark Gaia and Solaris.Antvasima said:
Also, done.
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maybe the change should be at least FTL+ possibly immesurable but that would contradict because this was considered an outliner so yeah
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MFTL+ actually. @Dark sure.
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Wait. Why did all these characters get changed to "MFTL" if we are basing this off of DontTalk's calc which is "obviously MFTL+"
And why are these characters who are consistently on par with Sonic or matched him "FTL+, Possible MFTL" instead of just MFTL+?
And why are these characters who are consistently on par with Sonic or matched him "FTL+, Possible MFTL" instead of just MFTL+?
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No one made any changes yet. Other calc group members need to review the calculation first. The possibly MFTL rating was already there.
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It's not a problem at all.
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We are talking about this MFTL+ feat:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DontTalk/A_hammer_and_some_flying_past_stars
According to TheMightyRegulator, Super Shadow, Super and Hyper Knuckles, Super Tails, Burning Blaze, Super and Hyper Sonic, Devil Doom, Final Hazard, Metal Madness, Mecha Sonic, Dark Gaia and Solaris, would be affected.
However, given that he TMR seems to understand the franchise, it may be best to let him handle the upgrade.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DontTalk/A_hammer_and_some_flying_past_stars
According to TheMightyRegulator, Super Shadow, Super and Hyper Knuckles, Super Tails, Burning Blaze, Super and Hyper Sonic, Devil Doom, Final Hazard, Metal Madness, Mecha Sonic, Dark Gaia and Solaris, would be affected.
However, given that he TMR seems to understand the franchise, it may be best to let him handle the upgrade.
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Second pic. These aren't stars, I'm pretty sure of it. Blaze is behind a star and in front of one at the same time and we can see they are comparable to her body size.TheMightyRegulator said:-It's not an aesthetic at all. The animation isn't even slightly comparable considering in one case, it's just nonsense streaks of light, while in the latter it's definable cosmological structures.
-We're already aware that in this moment they travelled to space considering Eggman was located in a tear of reality between Worlds. In all other cases, there's no evidence they even left the area.
-It's not just a Game Mechanic either. It's actually an integral part of the storyline and cutscene where the destination, the tear of reality, is actually visible and isn't just a represented by a white light as in every other case.
Now the large pink thing in the background looks like a galaxy, and you could calc how long it took to reach that.
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The stars are both actually in front of her and Blaze, as well as Sonic were both clearly closer to the camera than any of the stars in that scan, even the ones behind them. Perspective should be in play here, as this is space where something that seems close, may translate to millions of miles.
Also, don't see how they could have travelled to an entirely different galaxy without passing cosmological objects.
That's also not a galaxy, but a tear in space-time formed by two Universes were more or less, merging or colliding.
Also, don't see how they could have travelled to an entirely different galaxy without passing cosmological objects.
That's also not a galaxy, but a tear in space-time formed by two Universes were more or less, merging or colliding.
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I said Blaze and Sonic were closer though.
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idk if that is a star because blaze can't be THAT big that won't make sense considering they are average sized animals so either Blaze and Sonic are closer to the camera or that isn't a star but something else
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Considering that this battle is taking place in outer space, I think that the size issue is due to Sonic and Blaze being shown closer to the camera while the stars are shown to be further away.
This is because there are stars that shown to be smaller than the others, meaning that they could be further away.
Anyways, I am okay with the upgrade.
By the way, all these guys:
are getting their speed rating changed to Massively FTL+ and a calculation linked to it, correct?
This is because there are stars that shown to be smaller than the others, meaning that they could be further away.
Anyways, I am okay with the upgrade.
By the way, all these guys:
| Super Shadow, Super and Hyper Knuckles, Super Tails, Burning Blaze, Super and Hyper Sonic, Devil Doom, Final Hazard, Metal Madness, Mecha Sonic, Dark Gaia and Solaris |
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These upgrades are inconsistent outliers rhat assume too much based on a pretty aesthetic
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The calc itself os correct. The assumtpions that go into naking it are not. Also massive outlierAntvasima said:
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