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We have so many Sonic CRTs currently in limbo. If we could just get them accepted already, we could already move on to this
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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after a few tweaks and fixes(and finshing up the aplication of a few things) i will be covering this in a larger thread sometime this year
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There is anything to add besides the new AP ratings and the special shoes Sonic gets through the series?
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Shadow shows off some kind of chaos ground shockwave attack in the show that we don't see anywhere else, but that's about it I think
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So, the yellow energy around Shadow is when his Chaos Gauge is at maximum. This allows you to do Chaos Control. The enemies being stunned in ""Bullet Canyon"" is what happens when you hit an enemy with Chaos Spear. This is mapped to Triangle, on PlayStation controllers. You can tap it to fire one out, or hold to lock on to five targets. Then, I believe Shadow will throw out the 5 Chaos Spears at once, perhaps.
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Video with clear gameplay:
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Peak gaming
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liked Shadow's Voice direction already
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Spoiler text does not show, so
dang
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What did you want to say?
MysticMania
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It was in regard to a minor cosmetic leak in regards to Sonic X Shadow Generations.
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Absolutely the Penders lawsuit had a rippling effect towards the locked creativity for IDW, since SEGA doesn't want that mess to ever happen again.
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Hey, at least silver isn't a ETERNAL ****, like comic book spider man is.
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are we ignoring the fact that Wade's mom basically made him a
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Honorary jew, or straight up called him jewish?
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I know there’s a lot of CRTs out there but this one seems relatively simple to talk about: https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-incomplete-god-of-darkness-gets-a-boost-dark-gaia-upgrade.169087/
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Blue Zavok soon...
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Unironically, there should be a zavok rpg game akin to mario & luigi, no that DS sonic game..
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So, i was wondering. Why did we decide that the "baseline" level of power for a Super form should upscale from is the world rings that empower Darkspine Sonic? If the Chaos Emeralds are the strongest mcguffins in the verse, why not also make them upscale from the Precioustone? Especially if we're gonna literally accept that they are the "super-substance of dreams"? (which I'm still unsure about but eh)
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but they do, at their full power they are far beyond the precioustone(5D vs 6D)
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I know, but why not thier baseline level? That's my questiom
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Tbh not sure, it does seem arbitrary.
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Eggrobo
The Eggrobos are a group of elite Badnik soldiers who lead the forefront of Dr. Eggman's forces in the Eggman Empire and they are modelled after their creators. Tier: 5-A Name: Eggrobo, Eggman Robo, Egg-Robo, Egg Robo, EggRobo Origin: Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog 3) Gender: None Age...
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Why is he 5-A? Doesn't Sonic One-Shots him?
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He fights against knuckles a lot during his canpaign in S3KEggrobo
The Eggrobos are a group of elite Badnik soldiers who lead the forefront of Dr. Eggman's forces in the Eggman Empire and they are modelled after their creators. Tier: 5-A Name: Eggrobo, Eggman Robo, Egg-Robo, Egg Robo, EggRobo Origin: Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog 3) Gender: None Age...
Why is he 5-A? Doesn't Sonic One-Shots him?
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The Eggrobo has access to many Eggman machinery like in Sonic Superstars and Sonic 3 & KnucklesEggrobo
The Eggrobos are a group of elite Badnik soldiers who lead the forefront of Dr. Eggman's forces in the Eggman Empire and they are modelled after their creators. Tier: 5-A Name: Eggrobo, Eggman Robo, Egg-Robo, Egg Robo, EggRobo Origin: Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog 3) Gender: None Age...
Why is he 5-A? Doesn't Sonic One-Shots him?
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The 7 Chaos Emeralds' baseline should scale to the Phantom King and the Klepto Mobile. Depending on Sonic Prime's placement in the timeline, they could maybe scale to the paradox prism, but they have no reason to upscale from the World Rings. Any mention about them doing so with thier "baseline" power should be removed from profiles and each Super form should go back to having a variable lifting strenght tier as a result imo. (Multi-stellar to immeasurable)
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I’m confused, why the Phantom King/Klepto Mobile specifically?
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Because the latter is the strongest creation Eggman has ever made without any artifact like the Chaos Emeralds or the Phantom Ruby (before the modern era). The Klepto Mobile is strong enough to match the Phantom King, who created the Egg Reverie zone and fought Classic Super Sonic. Eggman seeks the emeralds for thier unimagineable power, so they should be superior to anything he could build by himself (at the time), but not so superior that Eggman can't possibly match thier power with his best machines (seen once again with the Super Egg Robot in Advance).
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Tbh maybe they should just upscale any feats the Emeralds do casually on their own so we get 5-D super forms baseline /j
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I feel there isn’t really anything stopping the Klepto Mobile from being above baseline Chaos Emeralds though, since the statement “unimaginable power” suggests it’s a level of power unreachably superior to anything Eggman can achieve himself. In my eyes it makes more sense to apply that to their peak, since how can their baseline hold “unimaginable power” yet still be relative to some of Eggman’s machines with no outside enhancements? Not to mention the “unimaginable power” statement is from the Advance series, which are set after Mania where Eggman’s technology is less powerful.
Also another thing, doesn’t the Klepto Mobile primarily fight while holding the Phantom Ruby? The one time Eggman tries not to is when he grapples with the Phantom King, who just kinda sends him away.
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If the baseline for Super forms became 5D, would Base forms also become 5D?
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Yeah. Unless we arbitrarily decide to call the nunerous instancea of scaling to Super level foes outliers now.
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The only alternative is to say the baseline level of the 7 emeralds is equivalant to 7 of the multipliers agreed upon on the recent power core/fake emerald CRT. This would downgrade most Super level foes in the Classic and Adventure era back to tier 4.
Or, of course, we can say the baseline of the emeralds is 5D, but that honestly makes less sense to me rn
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Baseline Super Forms being 5-D makes absolutely no sense
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Yeah, personally I’m more for that tbh (unless someone else manages to convince me to think otherwise).
Hopefully it wouldn’t affect Low 2-C stuff though, since I believe the Egg Dragoon, Nega-Wisp Armour and Super Eggrobo should all still upscale from the Klepto Mobile due to them all using potent outside power sources. I think we’d only lose Low 2-C Perfect Chaos and Low 2-C Egg Wyvern as arguments, but I doubt that would be enough to downgrade the characters.
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Say, shouldn’t the Final Weapon be 6D? It takes no damage from Hyper Sonic, can harm itself with its missiles and has an excuse to be this strong thanks to the Master Emerald.
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Outlier. It can't be on par with Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic at the same time. That being said, its speed should be infinite. Not MFTL+ (for now at least)
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Tbf we don’t really know how big the difference between peak Super and baseline Hyper actually is, and regardless Sonic’s invulnerability means the fight works even if there was a notable gap.
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Pretty sure baseline Hyper is currently accepted as superior to peak Super. That's why it doesn't have a variable tier. Besides, Super Sonic had no narrative reason to be at max power here.
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