Technically after the cosmology thread that buffed them from 5-D, the universes (and multiverse but that's been around for longer) are accepted to be infinite so that means he actually already has 2 in his speed section
I see. Thanks for the clarification.Technically after the cosmology thread that buffed them from 5-D, the universes (and multiverse but that's been around for longer) are accepted to be infinite so that means he actually already has 2 in his speed section
That's gonna change. If you see a comment I left earlier in the discussion thread you can see we're already working on it.
Bitch move, Silver. Why did he even think that would work if he thought Sonic was evil?
Terrifying in this case is clearly in context of their power, they are the most "terrifying" to fight, more powerful, thus being more hopeless to face of against
I kind of agree with you, to be honest.
Egg Dealer:
The Egg Dealer statement is valid, but its placement in the timeline would make it an outlier. It's before Sonic Battle, which explicitely caps the base cast at 4-A
Eggman showed Emerl the blaster's abillity to destroy a star cluster for the sole purpose of having him copy this amount of power. This is the most reasonable assumptiom to make, especially given the fact that there isn't any instance of Low 2-C scaling between Shadow The Hedgehog and Secret Ring, so not calling the Egg Dealer an outlier just because the Final Egg Blaster theoridically COULD be stronger than its already enormous level of power shown off for the first time in the series isn't really reasonable imo.
For something like this, I feel like that it should generally govern things like mechanics and power. While some mechs, like the Egg Dealer, "most terrifying" statement would be applicable from a mechanics standpoint, if I remember correctly; its entire thing was basically roullette that could basically screw you over and over. Effectively making it impossible to beat outside of Eggman conveniently placing in things that could screw himself over. But for things like the Egg Cerebreus, it would likely be from a power standpoint. In 06, IIRC, we aren't able to damage it in the rest of its area's, only being able to ram it into walls to even damage it in the first place
the statement is about his machines in general, so yeah it would include the Super Egg Robot
Like I said, even if "terrifying" exclusively refers to power, it still doesn't make it stronger than the Super Egg Robot unless more context is given to make it so.
So what? They're called "terrifying", which is relative. Terrifying to whom? The only answer to that question is base Sonic, or rather, the player taking control of base Sonic. For your argument to hold any weight, you would need evidence that these mechs are so terrifyingly powerful that a Super form would have previously been required to stop them. Nothing implies that. All we know is that they're terrifying within the context of a fight against base Sonic, which only makes them upscale from the foes he's defeated without transforming.
or in general, compared to all the other machines he used in the past, also Super Sonic = Base Sonic, they are the same person, so......you can't separate their perception
nah, they are hyped compared to his other machines, so compared to his other machines they are the most powerful, that includes the Super Egg Robot by default
no since Sonic faced machines such as the Super Egg Robot
also the most "monstrous" and most "terrible", it is very clearly talking about power here given the context of the statements being of a fight with them, there is nothing about their appearance that even comes close to being scarier than what he used before, i don't know why a description such as this in the context of a fight with them would not be about power...
no it isn't......using non related examples that are not in context with the statements we are using is not an argument against said statements
no, the statement is about his machines in general, what you just said doesn't exclude this fact
i....don't see why i would need to ask such an unrelated question, stay in context with the phrases we are using
Honestly I agree. Not only is 4-A to Low 2-C a massive jump just for a couple arguably vague statements, but the Egg Dealer statements (which explicitly call it the greatest creation) are already kinda blatantly an outlier so I don’t see why the ‘06 statements wouldn’t be also in this case. At the very least I don’t think it should be a solid Low 2-C rating, maybe a possibly/likely could work but not full-on Low 2-C.
Ah I see, so the feats are just higher into Low 2-C then. Still a neat little buff.
Super Sonic did. By your logic, Infinite would most DEFINITELY upscale from Solaris.
Weren´t the Sonic 2006 events forgotten in the final of the game?
Even if that was relevant, just replace Solaris with Time Eater or Metal Overlord, and the point doesn't change
Not had one yet, planning on a thread for that
That... sounds extremely wrong and fickle. Afaik the SOLE reason the thread didn't pass for 2-C was because Prime had yet to finish.
That’s what Qaws said on that thread, or something similar.
This + someone argued that Sonic shouldn´t scale to the full prism due to him being harmed by individual shards of it
Let´s transform a normal Sonic timeline into a 5D Hypertimeline where the main universe has multiple space-times but it is under a single higher dimensional timeline
Madman... Actual madman...Let´s transform a normal Sonic timeline into a 5D Hypertimeline where the main universe has multiple space-times but it is under a single higher dimensional timeline
You guys were already mad for trying Infinite Speed Base Sonic and Low 1-C cosmology
Ha. Touché.
It´s funny to see this comment with me knowing of what you are talking about, lol
They will hate it because we aren´t upgrading their favorite characters
