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Sonic General Discussion Thread 4 (And Knuckles)
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Yes indeed, that sonic boom.....Bobsican said:INB4 "Not this Sonic Boom"Bobsican said:
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So, wait...TheImagineBreaker121212 said:
The idea of Sonic aging (which he clearly has aged physically, otherwise, the classic days never existed and M.Sonic has been classic and saying otherwise is nonsense) is nonsense, but him staying the same age (which I doubt as he goes from a midget to daddy long legs) makes sense...?
Sorry if I'm not reading you correctly.
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Error in translation I think.ShakeResounding said:
In the Japanese version, Infinite says "you have been continuously losing to Sonic. I have only won."
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I just realized. Super Sonic has no invulnerability in his Super Sonic key for Game Sonic. What gives?
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It was apparently removed due to Super Sonic merely being considered very durable. Though imo he should qualify as he is routinely unharmed by those considered his equal (Perfect Chaos, Finalhazard, Super Egg Robot, Ultimate Gemerl, Nega-Mother Wisp, Metal Overlord, Egg Salamander, ect).VioletVoid100 said:
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I don't think we've ever actually seen Super Sonic get physically harmed. Kinda just... Pushed back. Best you can do is say he loses rings when he's hit in some games, which would be a stupid reason to claim he doesn't have invulnerability.
There's also that time with Perfect Dark Gaia. But Super Sonic wasn't even fatigued, he got tired as soon as he reverted back. That and for lol plot so Chip could seal himself in the Earth. Isn't that also the only time Super Sonic ever had a health bar? Why choose that one time over literally every other showing?
There's also that time with Perfect Dark Gaia. But Super Sonic wasn't even fatigued, he got tired as soon as he reverted back. That and for lol plot so Chip could seal himself in the Earth. Isn't that also the only time Super Sonic ever had a health bar? Why choose that one time over literally every other showing?
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The whole fight for Dark Gaia imo is due to PIS and I think Dark Gaia is connected to the Emeralds I believe just like the Gaia Colosses? Not to mention the only time he HAS been hurt is by being of Chaos Energy or something similar to that. Examples include the Phantom Ruby and Solaris and Egg Salamander.ShakeResounding said:
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Sonic passed out after reverting back to base because Perfect Dark Gaia drained energy from Werehog Sonic.
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^^^^^^^ as I've stated time and time again, these are all headcannon.
sonic hasn't shown any fatigue after being reverted from werehog to base forcefully, only after his fight with dark Gaia as super sonic, meaning the only conclusion is that dark Gaia matched super sonic in stats and negated his invulnerability.
PIS? That's dark gaias first appearance in the series and he was top tier according to eggman and pickle.
sonic hasn't shown any fatigue after being reverted from werehog to base forcefully, only after his fight with dark Gaia as super sonic, meaning the only conclusion is that dark Gaia matched super sonic in stats and negated his invulnerability.
PIS? That's dark gaias first appearance in the series and he was top tier according to eggman and pickle.
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Yes indeed. Sonic Logic LOL.DaBoiWhoOwnsMods said:
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Just because it's his first appearance doesn't mean his actions, or anyone at least, are immune from being pissed. And negate invulnerability? You can think it like that. Based on him "exorcising" Sonic in order to be whole again. Which is how he grew three new eyes.TheImagineBreaker121212 said:
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But that makes no sense for Sonic to be 15 at this pointTheImagineBreaker121212 said:
.He'd, up to this point, have to be either 16 or 17.
Here it states he's 16.
Here it states he's 15.
Both of these were posted looonngggg before Sonic Generations, i.e. his legit birthday. Whichever one you wanna go by, post-generations, he would be either 16 or 17.
His aging is literally more on the lines of any of The Flashes, Goku or even Superman.
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17 makes sense, but I figured he was around 18 or so by now.
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Also, I know about this. Here's my problem/question: Where does Modern Sonic's story start?UltimateFlare said:
It can't be in Sonic Adventure because in the game he says "Long time no see" and Tails tells Eggman "you're always up to no good" as if they've met countless times before + Sonic saying "don't tell me eggman tricked you again" to Knuckles, i.e. references the events of S3&K. Can't be Sonic 4 episode 1 because its explicitly stated to take place after S3&K. That retcon left more questions and made everything (not like it wasn't already) more complicated than it needs to be.
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Ima just gonna go with the theory that after Generations, the Time Eater's powers ended up creating another universe for Classic Sonic that doesn't at all affect Modern Sonic.UltimateFlare said:
Doesn't make much sense, but this isn't my theory but i'll take what I can get.
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Being honest, there's really no official confirmation that Sonic Classic is no longer Sonic's past, after all it is not necessary for Sonic Classic to stop being Sonic's past for it to be "Another World." The classic Sonic games continue to be the modern Sonic's past, even if the Classic Sonic that is used today became outside of the chronology that we know of because of Generations, it still would not make the classic stories before Sonic Adventure 1 no longer being the past of the stories of Modern Sonic.
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Sonic's story clearly starts with Sonic 1, lmao.
That isn't even up for debate tbh.
That isn't even up for debate tbh.
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@Godhand That's... Not what was being discussed.
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They had the potential with Infinite, even going as far to advertise him as the strongest villain Sonic's ever faced.
Only for him to lose to base Sonic and get tossed aside by Eggman.
Only for him to lose to base Sonic and get tossed aside by Eggman.
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I would like if Sonic Team did something simillar to a Cyber Sleuth in the form of a Sonic Game (The whole rebirth of old concepts of the story that Cyber Sleuth did to Digimon).
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To be honest, the only way I see the Infinite Sun being a high-level feat is to calculate the kinetic energy of the mass expanding from a small sphere to the size of the Sun we see, and yet that kind of method would most likely be criticized.
Sun feats does not usually result in great values, even our Sun only releases energies at the low/mid High 6-A level and just because it is huge, a Sun the size of the Infinite Sun should not generate a High 6-A result, at least with the conventional calculations.
It would be possible to try to calculate a creation of the feat through nuclear fussion (it would make it easier to directly use the temperature of the Sun's core), but I believe we only do it for feats that are directly described as being the result of nuclear fusion (Like in FMA).
I can't see a way to the Sun of Infinite being even consistent with the level of power of the characters so far, at least if it is calculated by taking into account the very low amount of information we have.
Sun feats does not usually result in great values, even our Sun only releases energies at the low/mid High 6-A level and just because it is huge, a Sun the size of the Infinite Sun should not generate a High 6-A result, at least with the conventional calculations.
It would be possible to try to calculate a creation of the feat through nuclear fussion (it would make it easier to directly use the temperature of the Sun's core), but I believe we only do it for feats that are directly described as being the result of nuclear fusion (Like in FMA).
I can't see a way to the Sun of Infinite being even consistent with the level of power of the characters so far, at least if it is calculated by taking into account the very low amount of information we have.
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Infinite was going to use that sun to burn the world to ashes, so it's definitely High 6-A.
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The Digimon franchise began to have problems during the Xros Wars Era due to drastic change in some concepts that did not meet the desires of the target audience. This was because Bandai saw Digimon as a child product, but did not understand that consumers were actually high school and college students who had been following the franchise since birth.MYHERO said:
The producer of the games of the time saw this situation and began to produce games that realized the desire of the consumers, changing Digimon to become a franchise dedicated to adults (With age of the consumers being close to 20 and rising each year).
Games like Re: Digitize, Collectors, Crusader, Cyber Sleuth and others were created with the idea of rescuing the initial concepts of the franchise and adapting them to the age of consumers. That way Digimon has grown again in Japan and continues to develop until today.
This type of idea would work with Sonic, after all already worked with Sonic Mania that is not only a great product for fans of Sonic Classic, but also a good game as a whole. I think there's something missing for fans of Sonic Modern, something that revives the original concepts of this era and that really is very good.
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