Sonic and Goku vs Flash and Superman.

[Rocks75]

Yeah, a battle of speed + strength, one with super strength being accompanied by a partner with super speed.

Ok, they fight in an indestructible planet and big as Supreme Kai's planet, which is much bigger than Jupiter.

Scenario 1: Super Sonic and Goku Super Saiyan 2 (Buu Saga) vs New 52 Flash and Post Crisis Superman.

Scenario 2: Hyper Sonic and Goku Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (the transformation with blue hair of new movie) vs Post Crisis Flash (Wally) and Pre Crisis Superman (with a few high end feats allowed, such as destroying a solar system with a sneeze, moving a star with his breath, freezing a star with his ice breath.)

Ok, which team wins in each scenario?

 

[Crimson_Ōkami]

1.DC Team 2.Draw

 

[Rocks75]

I see.

Why you think the DC team wins in the first round?

 

[Crimson_Ōkami]

Mainly because of their durability and Speed and the Flashes hax

 

[Blipeddeeblah]

Superman should stomp both Sanic and Goku. Flash would certainly help obliterating them too.

 

[Slim00001]

Goku or Sonic either on their own would stomp superman and flash

 

[GyroNutz]

Scenario 1: Either Flash or Supes shitstomp Goku, so he's not a factor here. Super Sonic (assuming 4-A) does better, but still gets blitzed and phased by Flash. If it's 2-C Super Sonic he blitzes.

Scenario 2: Hyper Sonic is non-canon tho? Same as before really, Goku is a non-factor and it comes down to whether or not 'Hyper' Sonic is 4-A or 2-C.

 

[Slim00001]

Scenario 1: Either Flash or Supes shitstomp Goku, so he's not a factor here. Super Sonic (assuming 4-A) does better, but still gets blitzed and phased by Flash. If it's 2-C Super Sonic he blitzes.
Scenario 2: Hyper Sonic is non-canon tho? Same as before really, Goku is a non-factor and it comes down to whether or not 'Hyper' Sonic is 4-A or 2-C.

How is goku not a factor?

He is 3-A whie superman is 4-B plus flash is 4-B only with IMP Plus flash has no way to hurt goku since even IMP isnt doing shit because its only white dwarf star while back in BoG he casually exchanged universal blows with beerus and that was BoG


Yeah Hyper sonic is non canon because they made super sonic infinite in speed

 

[GyroNutz]

Pre-Crisis Superman is 3-A, Flash ignores durability, both of them blitz Goku. If scenario 2 is referring to 2-C Super Sonic then yes, Sonic wins with ease.

 

[Slim00001]

Pre-Crisis Superman is 3-A, Flash ignores durability, both of them blitz Goku. If scenario 2 is referring to 2-C Super Sonic then yes, Sonic wins with ease.

Flash doesnt ignore durability his durabiliy ignoring attacks have been countered by wonder woman and supergirl who are both WAAYY inferior to Goku

In Scenario 2 both Goku and superman are MFTL but goku is better at fighting and has better techniques and Sonic has infinite speed so yes again Sonic and Goku stomp

 

[GyroNutz]

I'm pretty sure Flash jobs quite frequently in comics, thats just PIS though.

Goku has no answer to speed steal, or time paradoxing, and both Flash and Supes are a higher degree of 'MFTL+'. They stomp, but only if the OP is referring to Super Sonic (cause infinite speed). And even then, that might be getting downgraded soon.

 

[Slim00001]

I'm pretty sure Flash jobs quite frequently in comics, thats just PIS though.

Goku has no answer to speed steal, or time paradoxing, and both Flash and Supes are a higher degree of 'MFTL+'. They stomp, but only if the OP is referring to Super Sonic (cause infinite speed). And even then, that might be getting downgraded soon.

he doesnt actually he gets his ass kicked by street levelers

and the counters arent PIS that just shows he isnt the invincible beings the fanboys jack him off to be

that would be saying Goku can kiai everyones brains out and can destroy everyone but he doesnt coz PIS

Im not sure why Flash is even MFTL++ When he already has said "At light speed time stops flash fact"

Plus Supermans attained that higher level of MFTL speed after quite a while he cant attain that level off speed right of the bat like goku can and not even sure if he can apply that speed even in combat