Son Goku vs Uzi Doorman

[Mickey1940]

So do you vote for Uzi?

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What do u think bro

 

[Johner2133451]

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What do u think bro

Just in case if you wanna say this matchup is a stomp therefore unvotable. The other 2 people here mentions Goku stomps Uzi while you the opposite

Goku stomps because he vastly outskills Uzi in H2H its not even funny or Uzi stomps because her railgun just obliterates goku, but that is restricted, so Goku simply skillstomps her

Don't bother, when Johner puts their mind on something, it is impossible to get them to change their mind.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Just in case if you wanna say this matchup is a stomp therefore unvotable. The other 2 people here mentions Goku stomps Uzi while you the opposite

Okay so it's a mismatch, oops!

 

[Johner2133451]

Okay so it's a mismatch, oops!

How is it a mismatch if they dont one shot each other?

 

[DaReaperMan]

How is it a mismatch if they dont one shot each other?

It's either a stomp for Goku or a stomp for Uzi depending on how you look at it. That is the definition of a mismatch.

 

[Johner2133451]

It's either a stomp for Goku or a stomp for Uzi depending on how you look at it. That is the definition of a mismatch.

Stomp as in one shotting. Both characters cant do that

 

[DaReaperMan]

Stomp as in one shotting. Both characters cant do that

... Do you even listen to yourself sometimes?

"A stomp thread is a VS thread where, for all intents and purposes, one of the characters is unreasonably outmatched by their opponent. Whether it is through a difference in statistics, abilities or even (in very rare cases) skill between the two parties, these matches are heavily one-sided and provide little to no challenge or danger for the winning character."

Hmmmmmmmmm, seems like either Goku beats Uzi into the dirt with no difficulties because she can't touch him, or he passes out from exhaustion. With 0 in-between! Almost like there's 0 chance for either to win based on the circumstances.

Gonna be very, very blunt here, this is past my point of "Oh well it's a newbie, I can excuse them". you're just going to keep making mismatches until someone versus thread bans you. Want to prove me wrong? Read the profiles and do a little research into the characters you decide to throw at eachother. Oh, and stay the **** away from tiers 7 and up. That means no Low 7-C through High 1-A matches.

 

[Johner2133451]

... Do you even listen to yourself sometimes?

"A stomp thread is a VS thread where, for all intents and purposes, one of the characters is unreasonably outmatched by their opponent. Whether it is through a difference in statistics, abilities or even (in very rare cases) skill between the two parties, these matches are heavily one-sided and provide little to no challenge or danger for the winning character."

Hmmmmmmmmm, seems like either Goku beats Uzi into the dirt with no difficulties because she can't touch him, or he passes out from exhaustion. With 0 in-between! Almost like there's 0 chance for either to win based on the circumstances.

Gonna be very, very blunt here, this is past my point of "Oh well it's a newbie, I can excuse them". you're just going to keep making mismatches until someone versus thread bans you. Want to prove me wrong? Read the profiles and do a little research into the characters you decide to throw at eachother. Oh, and stay the **** away from tiers 7 and up. That means no Low 7-C through High 1-A matches.

How there is no in between? There is still a fight going on. Feels like you have a hate for me as you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

 

[Bernkastelll]

I've watched the entire Murder Drones series countless times, i'm one of the main supporters of the verse here, I can say just fine that Uzi has no way to defeat Goku without the Solver, y'all can ask all the other supporters as well, they will also say that her martial skills are not even close to kid goku's skills

 

[Johner2133451]

I've watched the entire Murder Drones series countless times, i'm one of the main supporters of the verse here, I can say just fine that Uzi has no way to defeat Goku without the Solver, y'all can ask all the other supporters as well, they will also say that her martial skills are not even close to kid goku's skills

Well you can use this person's answer as support

If Goku engages Uzi in CQC, yes he has an advantage but Uzi is far stronger even with KKx4, plus KKx4 actively destroys his body so badly that he couldn't last using it for more than a couple of seconds. Anything below that Uzi just facetanks

Goku will exhaust himself before he beats Uzi, so Uzi wins every time

 

[Bernkastelll]

Well you can use this person's answer as support

even if that's the case it will just means that it's a stomp in Uzi's favor

 

[DaReaperMan]

How there is no in between? There is still a fight going on. Feels like you have a hate for me as you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

The fight is either "Uzi gets beat until she's inactive with no hope of recovery"(what I believe happens) or "Uzi gets beat until goku passes out and she wins by default"

That's not a fight. A stomp is when there's so little in-character chance of victory for one side that it's nonexistent. Or there's just 0 chance of victory, like there is here. Either Goku's Stamina pulls him through long enough to beat through Uzi's Immortality type 2, or it doesn't. There's no match here, and literally everyone here is telling you this.

If everyone in the room is telling you that detonating a nuclear bomb you're in the same room with is a bad idea, do you still detonate it?

 

[Johner2133451]

The fight is either "Uzi gets beat until she's inactive with no hope of recovery"(what I believe happens) or "Uzi gets beat until goku passes out and she wins by default"

That's not a fight. A stomp is when there's so little in-character chance of victory for one side that it's nonexistent. Or there's just 0 chance of victory, like there is here. Either Goku's Stamina pulls him through long enough to beat through Uzi's Immortality type 2, or it doesn't. There's no match here, and literally everyone here is telling you this.

If everyone in the room is telling you that detonating a nuclear bomb you're in the same room with is a bad idea, do you still detonate it?

How is that a no match? There is still a fight. A mismatch is when 2 characters can one shot each other

That doesn't answer this

Feels like you have a hate for me as you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

 

[DaReaperMan]

How is that a no match? There is still a fight. A mismatch is when 2 characters can one shot each other

I just sent you the definition of a stomp thread. Where do you see one-shot in it?

You have made up your own definition that is not accepted by the wiki.

Let's go by my interpretation: What is Uzi's chance of victory? Hitting Goku, a character who outskills her hard enough to make Mike Tyson vs a literal toddler seem like a fair fight? Now let's go with Mikey's interpretation! What is Goku's chance of victory? Punching through a character with damn good immortality type 2 before he passes out in about a minute? At an AP disadvantage?

That doesn't answer this

Let me make this clear then.

Your matches are as fair as Eddie Hall vs the Neffati Brothers.


If you think I hate you, I despise how you stonewall, and hammer corks into your ears the moment something you don't like happens. There are 6 people, including me, telling you this is a stomp.

just accept that this match doesn't work bro

If Goku engages Uzi in CQC, yes he has an advantage but Uzi is far stronger even with KKx4, plus KKx4 actively destroys his body so badly that he couldn't last using it for more than a couple of seconds. Anything below that Uzi just facetanks

Goku will exhaust himself before he beats Uzi, so Uzi wins every time

Goku stomps because he vastly outskills Uzi in H2H its not even funny or Uzi stomps because her railgun just obliterates goku, but that is restricted, so Goku simply skillstomps her

Without the Solver she has no wincon because Goku will just skillstomp her, and since the Solver is part of her programming, I don't even think it can be restricted

Worry not Johner, you can make 8-A matchups! Make something like 21st Budokai Goku vs Ikit Claw and have them start 4 kilometers apart, it would be fair trust!1!
Edited: Ikit with his army

 

[Johner2133451]

I just sent you the definition of a stomp thread. Where do you see one-shot in it?

You have made up your own definition that is not accepted by the wiki.

Let's go by my interpretation: What is Uzi's chance of victory? Hitting Goku, a character who outskills her hard enough to make Mike Tyson vs a literal toddler seem like a fair fight? Now let's go with Mikey's interpretation! What is Goku's chance of victory? Punching through a character with damn good immortality type 2 before he passes out in about a minute? At an AP disadvantage?

Let me make this clear then.

Your matches are as fair as Eddie Hall vs the Neffati Brothers.


If you think I hate you, I despise how you stonewall, and hammer corks into your ears the moment something you don't like happens. There are 6 people, including me, telling you this is a stomp.

Interpretations don't have to be separate? They can be mixed

That still doesn't answer this

Feels like you have a hate for me as you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

Especially this very very part

you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

 

[DaReaperMan]

Interpretations don't have to be separate? They can be mixed

That still doesn't answer this

Especially this very very part

It's either a stomp for Goku or a stomp for Uzi depending on how you look at it. That is the definition of a mismatch.

Reading. Comprehension.

 

[Johner2133451]

Reading. Comprehension.

You only mention that after the Uzi supporter came in, previously you keep agreeing that Goku stomps

 

[Ebihara]

Johner they aren't doing this in bad faith they are trying to help. You have appected advice before and made good intresting threads. There are nearly infinite matchups You can make just move on and make a new one and likely alot of similar people will participate.

 

[Johner2133451]

Johner they aren't doing this in bad faith they are trying to help. You have appected advice before and made good intresting threads. There are nearly infinite matchups You can make just move on and make a new one and likely alot of similar people will participate.

My main problem is that he keeps agreeing with whatever opposition I have. Like they all mention Uzi has no winning chance and I responded with the same thing as the Uzi supporter (which is stamina issue). They still argue that it's a stomp for Goku's side

But when the Uzi supporter came in and replied with the same thing I mention, they start to shift their mind which I find something wrong

 

[DaReaperMan]

My main problem is that he keeps agreeing with whatever opposition I have. Like they all mention Uzi has no winning chance and I responded with the same thing as the Uzi supporter (which is stamina issue). They still argue that it's a stomp for Goku's side

But when the Uzi supporter came in and replied with the same thing I mention, they start to shift their mind which I find something wrong

Let's go by my interpretation:

It's either a stomp for Goku or a stomp for Uzi depending on how you look at it. That is the definition of a mismatch.

seems like either Goku beats Uzi into the dirt with no difficulties because she can't touch him, or he passes out from exhaustion. With 0 in-between!

Remember when I said reading comprehension? Let's dissect this a little!

I have said things like "depending on how you look at it", this means that in the English language, I'm not saying I even have a specific stance, and even in the third post I've quoted I took an objective stance that never showed support for either side, but the moment you questioned me, which I responded with the first post, it was clear I still thought it was Goku who did the stomping, calling the interpretation where Goku stomps "my interpretation"

Normally I'd say it's condescending as **** to do things like that... but you clearly actually NEED this sort of a breakdown.

 

[Johner2133451]

Remember when I said reading comprehension? Let's dissect this a little!

I have said things like "depending on how you look at it", this means that in the English language, I'm not saying I even have a specific stance, and even in the third post I've quoted I took an objective stance that never showed support for either side, but the moment you questioned me, which I responded with the first post, it was clear I still thought it was Goku who did the stomping, calling the interpretation where Goku stomps "my interpretation"

Normally I'd say it's condescending as **** to do things like that... but you clearly actually NEED this sort of a breakdown.

Did you read this?

You only mention that after the Uzi supporter came in, previously you keep agreeing that Goku stomps

 

[DaReaperMan]

Did you read this?

And did you read what I said?

How there is no in between? There is still a fight going on. Feels like you have a hate for me as you keep agreeing with the opposition (like Goku stomps) but when someone came in and say Uzi slaps, you start to change your mind

Let's go by my interpretation: What is Uzi's chance of victory? Hitting Goku, a character who outskills her hard enough to make Mike Tyson vs a literal toddler seem like a fair fight? Now let's go with Mikey's interpretation! What is Goku's chance of victory? Punching through a character with damn good immortality type 2 before he passes out in about a minute? At an AP disadvantage?

let me make that bigger...

Let's go by my interpretation: What is Uzi's chance of victory? Hitting Goku, a character who outskills her hard enough to make Mike Tyson vs a literal toddler seem like a fair fight?

My response to you immediately when you accused me clearly shows my stance.

 

[Johner2133451]

And did you read what I said?


Oh, sorry, I know you're hard of sight, let me make that bigger...

Ok so my point still stands that you only change your mind regarding the match being complete stomp on Goku's favor to mismatch when the Uzi supporter came in

Okay so it's a mismatch, oops!

 

[Ebihara]

My main problem is that he keeps agreeing with whatever opposition I have. Like they all mention Uzi has no winning chance and I responded with the same thing as the Uzi supporter (which is stamina issue). They still argue that it's a stomp for Goku's side

But when the Uzi supporter came in and replied with the same thing I mention, they start to shift their mind which I find something wrong

i mean new info comes up peoples opions change. I also felt the same way when the thread was posted till murder drones supporters showed up. This is debating we should hope people are willing to change there stances when new info comes up.

 

[Ebihara]

Ok so my point still stands that you only change your mind regarding the match being complete stomp on Goku's favor to mismatch when the Uzi supporter came in

I tried to be nice. you DONT HAVE A POINT. peoples opions change when new info comes. so when a uzi supporter comes and explains in detail uzi and how the fight would go... they changed how they felt. you are getting upset over someone taking in new info..

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ok so my point still stands that you only change your mind regarding the match being complete stomp on Goku's favor to mismatch when the Uzi supporter came in

My opinion is still the former, I brought up mismatch because the alternative interpretation IS STILL A STOMP.

Accept this.

 

[Johner2133451]

i mean new info comes up peoples opions change. I also felt the same way when the thread was posted till murder drones supporters showed up. This is debating we should hope people are willing to change there stances when new info comes up.

I can agree if there's a new info but that doesn't apply here as the Uzi supporter mentions the literal same thing as I do

My main problem is that he keeps agreeing with whatever opposition I have. Like they all mention Uzi has no winning chance and I responded with the same thing as the Uzi supporter (which is stamina issue). They still argue that it's a stomp for Goku's side

But when the Uzi supporter came in and replied with the same thing I mention, they start to shift their mind which I find something wrong

 

[Johner2133451]

My opinion is still the former, I brought up mismatch because the alternative interpretation IS STILL A STOMP.

Accept this.

And why can't interpretations mix?

Accept that you only change your mind that another person came in and said the same thing as I do?

 

[DaReaperMan]

And why can't interpretations mix?

Accept that you only change your mind that another person came in and said the same thing as I do?

Hey Johner, are you a psychic?

If you are, tell me my favorite World of Warcraft character.

If you're wrong you lose all rights to say what I'm thinking.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also, Johner, for the record, if I had my way you'd be banned from making matches for 1 year and even afterwards could only make matches when someone like, say, @Chariot190 said it was a fine match to make.

 

[Johner2133451]

Also, Johner, for the record, if I had my way you'd be banned from making matches for 1 year and even afterwards could only make matches when someone like, say, @Chariot190 said it was a fine match to make.

I haven't even made any matchups since weeks ago, I only focus on arguing on current matchups made other people now

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[Johner2133451]

I also even tried asking Chariot first if the matchup is good or no first but he simply just ignores me. And only take interests to bash on me

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