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Son Goku vs Grovyle
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"Quick Attack: Grovyle uses its amazing speed to attack the opponent before the opponent can react. It normally goes first, cuts through corners, and has more range than his other moves."
Grovyle wins. OvO
Grovyle wins. OvO
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Absorbe can be dodged, wut.
Absorb starts from the opponent and goes to the user in all of the animations used for it. It's...weird, tbh. It's not a projectile or a physical move.
Absorb starts from the opponent and goes to the user in all of the animations used for it. It's...weird, tbh. It's not a projectile or a physical move.
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Goku should take this via UI, versatile ways to use ki, solar flare, IT, flight, adapting to different situations really fast in combat, and growing stronger the longer he fights.
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UI Goku adapts to the opponent's attacks, as soon as Grovyle gets close he is going to be in a lot of shit.
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What? UI Goku doesn't adapt to anything.
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He is outright stated to increase his reaction timing everytime he dodges.
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That's nowhere close to adaptation. That's a factor of his reactive power level. Plus, his counterattack causes him to get hit with another counterattack.
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You know what I meant. Grovyle has almost no chance in melee range.
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Not gonna lie, I didn't. I've seen some things about UI, so I can't assume for anything.
Grovyle's Luminous Orbs and Dig for surprise attacks, plus having an ability that makes him auto-attack twice with every attack, which may provide a counter to UI make him a much greater close combat threat.
Grovyle's Luminous Orbs and Dig for surprise attacks, plus having an ability that makes him auto-attack twice with every attack, which may provide a counter to UI make him a much greater close combat threat.
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Concentrator: Grovyle is focused on making its attacks hit, so its accuracy is boosted by 1 level. Its evasion is reduced by 1 level, however.
Practice Swinger: When Grovyle fails to hit the target with an attack or move, his Attack and Special get boosted for only the next turn.
Counter Hitter: Grovyle takes on the Mini Counter status, which makes him strike back against attackers in certain conditions.
Quick Dodger: Grovyle becomes better at evading attacks and moves.
Quick Striker: Grovyle attacks at a faster rate, so he will always lash out with an extra attack right after its first one.
^ these all provide counters for UI.
Practice Swinger: When Grovyle fails to hit the target with an attack or move, his Attack and Special get boosted for only the next turn.
Counter Hitter: Grovyle takes on the Mini Counter status, which makes him strike back against attackers in certain conditions.
Quick Dodger: Grovyle becomes better at evading attacks and moves.
Quick Striker: Grovyle attacks at a faster rate, so he will always lash out with an extra attack right after its first one.
^ these all provide counters for UI.
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MAN.
CAL.
ONCE AGAIN.
equalize man.
Ya forgot.
CAL.
ONCE AGAIN.
equalize man.
Ya forgot.
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Son of a...
I did forget. Will do.
I did forget. Will do.
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Grovyle via DC. His IQ skills counter UI and argaubly are better versions of UI, and he has comparable fighting skill, given he grew up basically in Hell.
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Surprise attacks are also countered by UI. You don't actually need to acknowledge your opponent's move for UI to react, that's the point of the form.
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UI still needs sensing to work. Otherwise it couldn't get speedblitzed if there wasn't some sort of acknowledgement to go by. And there's still Detect's invulnerability to worry about, or Bullet Seed being a huge problem.
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Leaning to inconclusive but I doubt dig will be a factor.
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Speed is equalized, so Goku will be able to sense it regardless.
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Honest question. Did I say anything that implies speed boosts? Because idk if I did.
Also, you said Quick Striker was useless here. Why? It's no different than UI in that it's an auto-attack the second time rather than auto-dodge.
Also, you said Quick Striker was useless here. Why? It's no different than UI in that it's an auto-attack the second time rather than auto-dodge.
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If Dialga can't sense Grovyle, I doubt Goku can.Kepekley23 said:
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Quick Striker: Grovyle attacks at a faster rate, so he will always lash out with an extra attack right after its first one.
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Quick Striker has no feats to suggest it can tag UI
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Grovyle fra, I guess.
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Grovyle FRA
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I'm sorry
