Something something, canonicity (Fujitaka verse)

[SweetDao]

So, I need to make a CRT so that we accept "The Demon King is Unbeatable" as part of the canon, as such, so here it is.

Here are all the connections. However, I'd argue that every chapter is usable, even after the first three volumes. It makes no sense to only accept a portion of it. But that can be discussed later on.

Connection with My Big Sister Lives in a Fantasy World:

- Yuichi Sakaki directly mentioned since the person who's going to be isekai-ed is a classmate of his, Koichi Makise. He also exists within My Big Sister Lives in a Fantasy World.

Connection with Instant Death:

- Places like Celestial Foundation and the "Sea" are mentioned in both, alongside stuff like universes encompassing others and such.

- Battlesong system is shared between both.

- Celestial Foundation Eater also exists within TDKIU.

- The "world" (Ultimate Ensemble World) mentioned in TDKIU.

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Agree: LephyrTheRevanchist

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[KingNanaya]

I agree

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I have no say on any potential tiering stuff but dunno why it wouldn't be canon already.

 

[Ihsjihahxu]

I agree

 

[Ihsjihahxu]

Off topic for a moment, where did you get this novel from?

 

[SweetDao]

Off topic for a moment, where did you get this novel from?

Pixiv Fanbox of the author. At one point it was probably available online but got deleted when the official volumes were released.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Seems fine to me

 

[SweetDao]

Seems fine to me

Are you fine with not only the three volumes published, but also the fourth and fifth volume solely written on the fanbox of the author as a webnovel format? (or perhaps it was available at some point somewhere, but I'm unsure)

To explain a bit more, the three volumes were selling really badly, so he never had the chance to publish the rest, as such, he uploaded the existing volumes on his fanbox alongside two new volumes.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I believe per our rules, only the officially publish ones would count.

 

[SweetDao]

I believe per our rules, only the officially publish ones would count.

I mean, isn't it contradictory? The rest of them are just in the webnovel format, it's not like they are "unofficial" or whatever. They are also technically available to anyone wanting to read them, as long as they pay. That's like saying exclusive chapters/bonus chapters on the Patreon of an author aren't usable because "They are on Patreon and not officially published" which is iffy.

 

[KingNanaya]

I believe per our rules, only the officially publish ones would count.

could you please cite the rule that says this specifically? the rules on canon don't specify anything like this scenario.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

could you please cite the rule that says this specifically? the rules on canon don't specify anything like this scenario.

The generally agreed-upon definition is that the work by the original author and creator of the fictional setting is canonical, unless the author or the copyright holder declares otherwise. Notably, if a work is referred to by the author/publisher as "canon-adjacent" or otherwise given an endorsement of canonicity that contains some form of asterisk (mostly canon, etc) in the absence of more specific information it should be assumed that these works are not usable given our inability to determine what aspects of the work are not fully canon. A few other exceptions are also possible and should be noted on the verse page.

So basically, are the extra volumes/chapters not officially released referenced in some form on the more "official" works? Or has the author directly declared them canon in some way?

 

[SweetDao]

So basically, are the extra volumes/chapters not officially released referenced in some form on the more "official" works? Or has the author directly declared them canon in some way?

Well, it's just the continuation of the others, I don't know exactly what you would need. I'm not understanding the question clearly.

If by "referenced" you mean "does stuff that proves canonicity happens beyond the first three volumes" yeah, for example, the mentions of the Celestial Foundation Eater.

- Celestial Foundation Eater also exists within TDKIU.

Also, the whole "Universes within universes", which, mind you, is one of the crux of the cosmology of Instant Death.

 

[KingNanaya]

So basically, are the extra volumes/chapters not officially released referenced in some form on the more "official" works?

from what I understand, it's the same series in a different format because the author couldn't afford to publish the volumes in paper copies anymore.