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Some Swamp thing stuff I found

What do you wish to change and why, and has Sandman31 not already evaluated this?
 
Well, you can ask him to comment here again if you wish.
 
Heaven being in the Sphere of the Gods doesnt mean that the Presence is limited to that plane of existence. The home of the Endless is in the Sphere of the Gods yet we know that Destinys book still contains the Multiverse. Morrison did not place the Presence below Limbo, he placed the Silver City below Limbo. Big difference
 
That is true.

So is there anything left to do here?
 
I havent seen any. 1-A yeah

About the ST stuff, I always consider that as some form of cosmic awareness. Swamp Thing meditated for a week and grew a bigger brain to solve a problem, which is finding a host for the next spirit elemental of the Green. Im not sure if it can be used to upgrade him though
 
Should we mention this in his profile, to avoid future misunderstandings?
 
Sandman31 said:
I havent seen any. 1-A yeah
About the ST stuff, I always consider that as some form of cosmic awareness. Swamp Thing meditated for a week and grew a bigger brain to solve a problem, which is finding a host for the next spirit elemental of the Green. Im not sure if it can be used to upgrade him though
I mean yeah, this isn't meant to solely upgrade ST, but rather a indepth explanation of the entire cosmology (he later states he barely scratched the surface of the cosmology though) Also more stuff supporting 1-A God, Void and another stuff.
 
In the New Lucifer issue 3,

Lucifer stated that the Presence shaped THE VOID into Matter. That means the Presence can manipulate the Overvoid?
 
Nether nine said:
In the New Lucifer issue 3,
Lucifer stated that the Presence shaped THE VOID into Matter. That means the Presence can manipulate the Overvoid?
Is this merely referencing the void before creation or the actual overvoid itself?
 
@Hykuu

Isn't the Overvoid the Void before Creation anyway? What's the difference between the two? Outside the Source Wall and Time Space there is only Voids, there are no Voids in any level of the Multiverse. In Lucifer, the Void before Creation was portrayed as white.

DC always had a 1-A void. The problem is that different writers say different things about its nature.

Presence and Pralaya is a Void before Creation according to Matteis, so is Mother Night according to Gaiman. The Over-Void is just Morrison's revision of the concept which he made metafictional. We can only make scant guesses about how the Multi-Voids of DC actually work. Maybe they're all the same thing of different aspects.
 
Because there are still Voids in DC which are merely the Voids before Universes. Like beings such as the Endless predates these Voids, unlike the Overvoid which predates completely everything.

Also May I see the scan?
 
isn't "he'd" God or Michael?

And I am pretty sure the Overvoid was consistently shown as being a white Void from lucifer's perspective.
 
I am very busy and likely not the right person to evaluate what we should do about The Presence and Overvoid profiles. It is probably best if you ask Azathoth, Matthew, and Sandman31 about this.
 
Iirc that scan was referring to the multiverse I wouldn't use any scans suggesting such as it has been already retconned but yeah, scans says such do in fact exist.
 
Hykuu said:
Iirc that scan was referring to the multiverse I wouldn't use any scans suggesting such as it has been already retconned but yeah, scans that say such do in fact exist.
 
People might say that because a Universe in DC is finite in 3D space, they might say Low 2C feats in DC are inferior to Low 2C feats in other fictions where the Universes are infinite in 3D space.

I think it's pretty fundamentally important for powerscaling Universe level feats in DC.

This even affects 2B, 2A, 1C and 1B feats of DC since the higher dimensions are being size scaled, depending on the size of the lowest universe if whether the universes the higher dimensions are infinitely bigger than, are finite or infinite sized 3d spaces in each universe.

You know, to counter DC lowball.
 
Nether nine said:
People might say that because a Universe in DC is finite in 3D space, they might say Low 2C feats in DC are inferior to Low 2C feats in other fictions where the Universes are infinite in 3D space.

I think it's pretty fundamentally important for powerscaling Universe level feats in DC.

This even affects 2B, 2A, 1C and 1B feats of DC since the higher dimensions are being size scaled, depending on the size of the lowest universe if whether the universes the higher dimensions are infinitely bigger than, are finite or infinite sized 3d spaces in each universe.

You know, to counter DC lowball.
Universe size doesn't matter if you are busting it on the low 2-C scale afaik, you might have to re read the tiering system as I'm not sure and currently on mobile. Also if you have any questions like these i would rather you post them on my wall instead, thanks.
 
Sandman31 said:
Swamp Thing meditated for a week and grew a bigger brain to solve a problem, which is finding a host for the next spirit elemental of the Green.
Just wanted to clarify that in the same issue, ST stated that growing a "bigger brain" wouldn't have done anything, since his "mind" is more a part of his "essence" and his "physical brain", as stated in Anatomy Lesson, is there just for show, basically.
 
@Hykuu

Do you wish to copy the contents of your Google+ post here, before the site in question is shut down?
 
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