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I disagree with removing High 6-A for Superman. I'm sorry but I think the movie's pretty clear on the Mother Boxes. I don't understand what the problem at all is whatsoever.
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Some questions about DCEU Superman
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Island level stuff for the weaker characters based on Atlantis Sinking, Karathen bursting out the Earth's core and Zeus creating Themyscera seems fine tho.
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As I mentioned above we have no idea over what timeframe the warping if Earth would occur with the boxes (seems to be somewhat over time)Matthew Schroeder said:
There's also the fact Cyborg used his technopathy during a period of weakness for the boxes so it's questionsble how much Supes even participated.
Also Matt could I get your opinion on something while you were here
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Elaborate.Cropfist said:
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Pretty much what HellBeast1 said, there is no confirmed timeframe of the Mother Boxes terraforming a planet. There is nothing that proves that Superman scales to the Mother Boxes, more of less even statements about him being empowered by it. The only statements was bringing him back to life, you could say that he is stronger after ressurection, but again, we don't know to what extent.Matthew Schroeder said:
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What do you mean without a timeframe? The Mother Boxes, despite all 3 boxes being merged were in the process of terraforming the Earth yet still was taking a lot of time. https://youtu.be/59pGuEURNMo?t=120 in this scene here it shows to be spreading around the Earth after merging. Hell, in the final battle, it was literally shown on radar that the terraforming was spreading. When Batman asked how long till it spreads everywhere, Cyborg said a few hours.KLOL506 said:
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I agree with RanaPro
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I also agree with this downgrade. Should have been done a long time ago.
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If I didn't make it clear, I don't mind this downgrade.
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I feel like these should be the changes.JackJoyce said:
Superman: Large Island level (Capable of harming Doomsday while heavily weakened, who knocked around Wonder Woma) | likely higher (Stronger than his previous state after being ressurected, and than virtually everyone else in the film. Seperated the Mother Boxes along side Cyborg).
Wonder Woman: Building level+ (Vastly superior to most, if not all, Amazons, who have fought Parademons. Destroyed the top of a Church), likely far higher' (Barely fought against an extremely casual Ares) |' At least Large Island level (Killed Ares after embracing her true nature as the daughter of Zeus, albeit the latter was far weaker than before. Comparable to Superma. Sliced Doomsday's arm with her sword. Briefly held her own against a resurrected Superma, though lost ultimately).
Aquaman: Large Island level (Fought Steppenwolf head on and kept up with him. Comparable to Wonder Woma in strength. Fought against Orm who took a hit from Karathen and can cause tsunamis that can topple aircraft carriers and leave a large junk of trash on land as a warning shot.) | likely higher with Trident of Atlantis (His new Trident of Atlantis is far superior to his old Quindent, as it broke Orm's trident which broke his old Quindent. The Trident of Atlantis should make him comparable to Karathen who was able to dig through the Earth in a matter of minutes).
Cyborg: Large Island level (Harmed Steppenwolf with plasma blasts, contributed to separating the Mother Boxes, which also required sizeable effort from Superma).
Doomsday: Large Island level (Started out as strong as a weakened Superma and kept getting stronger through its absorption powers. Reached its peak after absorbing the energy of a nuclear missile and was capable of fending off both a peak Superman and Wonder Woma at once with ease).
Black Manta: Street level (Employs technology that, while advanced, is considered "human-level" by Aquaman) | Possibly Large Island level (Battled Aquama and considerably wounded him during their fight, albeit the latter didn't have his Trident).
Ares: 'Large Island level (Mortally wounded Zeus in single combat, who created the island of Themyscira with his dying breath and separated the Mother Boxes with ease) | 'Building level+, likely far higher (Far weaker than before due to his injuries. Comparable to Wonder Woma before she embraced her true nature as the daughter of Zeus).
Zeus: Large Island level (Created the island of Themyscira with his dying breath, which is at least this big, likely far larger. Defeated Ares and left him wounded and weakened for millennia. Severely wounded Steppenwolf with a lightning bolt. Separated the Mother Boxes).
Steppenwolf: Large Island level (Fought the entire Justice League head-on. Capable of defeating Wonder Woma and Aquama. Should be comparable to Doomsday). Can ignore some durability with the Electro-Axe (Can turn people into Parademons).
Orm: Large Island level (Can trade blows with Base form Aquama and broke his trident. Superior to Aquama who took hits from Karathen which could dig through the Earth in a matter of minutes. Caused worldwide tsunamis).
Mera: Large Island level (As a member of the Atlantean royalty, she should be comparable to Aquama before becoming the King of Atlantis. Defeated several Men of War soldiers, including general Murk. Managed to push back Steppenwolf with a water blast).
Atlanna: Large Island level (Should be comparable to her sons. Defeated several Men of War soldiers).
Nereus: Large Island level (Should be comparable to Orm and superior to Mera)
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All of these looks good also is Superman weak to magic?
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Nope.
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We cant really keep the class Z if we throw out the AP/dura the feat also gives.
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True class Z have to go, also what about the sword of Athena being able to harm doomsday isn't it magic?
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A weaker Doomsday took multiple hits from the Sword of Athena which didn't do anywhere near the damage of the last one. It even clashes directly against his skin as he got stronger.
Not striking but he still needs to be durable enough to exert such force which means those who can harm him would scale to the dura and him being able to harm them would scale him as well.
Not striking but he still needs to be durable enough to exert such force which means those who can harm him would scale to the dura and him being able to harm them would scale him as well.
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@Rana looking good
Though I'd remove the durability negation for Steppenwolf (It feels more like Necromancy then anything)
Though I'd remove the durability negation for Steppenwolf (It feels more like Necromancy then anything)
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Unfortunately I;m not sure how much else we're gonna get considering not many support the verse
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I mean we can put a Possibly Class Z for the tectonic plate (We just can't use the KE from it)AnonymousBlank said:
Though I don't care either way.
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Guys, I suggest we make a profile for Karathen as well and link its feat of digging its way through the center of the Earth to the end of the ocean. I feel like this is necessary since that is who we are scaling almost everyone from.
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Agreed (Plus I want matches with her)
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I think Class Z should stay. We know that Superman moved a tectonic plate. We just don't know enough to calc KE from it.
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To be fair it's supposedly in the tie ins (I'll look for that and if it exists I'll bring it up in my own thread on the subject)?
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Yes we need a profile for that Kaiju
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YupAntvasima said:
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We also need to get of everyone's Class Z lifting strength. The original calc was rejected for awhile now but it's still there for some reason.
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We don't know what Tectonic Plate he moved and it's massively above the consistently Class M feats the verse has.
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