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We also gotta remember that this resistance is lower than the basic resistance.
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And what defines "basic"?
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When a Death move of the most basic level just doesn't effect you.
See AncientSphinxmon and Kid Lucemon.
See AncientSphinxmon and Kid Lucemon.
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In that case, every Pokémon not named Arceus should have "limited" in front of their resistances. Same with anyone who gets resistance from not no-selling things.
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Then so be it, I don't get the comparison her.
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can we not derail here?
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Because resistances are one of the few abilities that shouldn't get "limited" in front of them. Because there's no defined basis for a "basic" level of a hax ability. Only way you'd get a "limited" for a resistance is if the thing affecting you is clearly low level and you still get affected, like Goku's limited resistance to Hit's time-stop.
Actually, that's not even true, because Goku doesn't have a "limited" in front of it.
Actually, that's not even true, because Goku doesn't have a "limited" in front of it.
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Comparison=/=derail, but forget it. I shall.Theglassman12 said:
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I am really not about to argue with you. I tried to save you some words, but like I said I really don't care to argue. I promised I would get into as many petty conflicts this year.
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Argument implies conflict. We're simply having a civilized debate. However, I'm done for the day, and can't respond anymore...
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Cal, do you have the link to that blog?
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The thing I'm getting at is that it takes several hours for Link to die while hearing notes from a song that would kill other people upon hearing any of it.
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Where is this "It takes hours" stuff come from. What is the actual time in game?
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With Link at full HP, it would take minutes of real time to kill him, which is hours, in-game.
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It doesn't take hours, Link's health drains by a piece each second.
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kinda make my job ta do exactly that. Not even hax, litterally all powers and attacks.The real cal howard said:
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Each second of real time is minutes in-game. And draining health from him is obviously not as bad as just him becoming dead as the aforementioned speech before he plays the song implies will happen to him.
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@hadou you do know that the amount of time spent for the spell to kill link is inconsistent right? Since you can slow down time, and the health still drains in the exact same pace.
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Going by that, link moves at like 10mph.
Only goes so far kinda would take the length at face value .
Only goes so far kinda would take the length at face value .
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His time slowing literally slows everything, though. I didn't think it was combat applicable, it slows himself, too. It slows him, the song played by Sharp, and thus would slow the pace of being drained, everything is slowed, but would still take the same amount of time.
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Yeah, we really shouldn't use Zelda's day in night cycle as a source for character speeds. Taking a few hours to accomplish a small task seems absurd.
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Even if we don't, like I mentioned earlier as a possibility if we didn't, it would still take several minutes.
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Which is still not that long. So limited resistance to death manipulation should be there.
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All resistances are limited though, and that is kind of long, if Link just defeats the enemy within minutes, which most battles typically don't last that long. It keeps things like Death Materia or random instant death spells from oneshotting him, so it's a pretty sincere resistance.
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Like I said before, he still dies from the death song, so he should have limited resistance since the song still affected him to an extent.
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Things you have a resistance to can affect you. Think of electric type attacks affecting other electric type Pokémon. If the song did nothing to Link at all, and some crap said "Link was deathless" or something, that'd just be like flat out immunity. Link resists Death Manipulation, putting limited in front of it is redundant or else limited should be in front of literally every resistance. It isn't a full on weak resistance. It just makes the notes hurt him instead of kill him.
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Bump.
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That doesn't mean his resistance was weak, though. It literally just made him take damage like regular attacks instead of just flat out killing him. Like I pointed out, this would be efficient enough to keep things like Death Materia or other similar spells from being actually useful against him.
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Why, though? This is a similar effect to like Ganon trying to use mind hax on him and it just making Link take damage instead of do what it was supposed to do. Sharp's music failed to do what it was supposed to do, which was just make Link become dead upon hearing it at all.
Sharp's Song: Kills those who hear it.
Death Materia: Kills the target.
I mean, I don't see why he wouldn't hold a resistance. What Sharp did by playing the song for so long was basically the equivalent to spamming a death spell.
Sharp's Song: Kills those who hear it.
Death Materia: Kills the target.
I mean, I don't see why he wouldn't hold a resistance. What Sharp did by playing the song for so long was basically the equivalent to spamming a death spell.
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But it didn't just outright kill him. It just did regular damage, and it would've taken several minutes to kill him.
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He was going to die as he continued playing it. If Sharp stopped, Link wouldn't have still eventually died, given that well...that's what happened. It's not really different that saying Link would've died if Ganon didn't stop hitting him, or something like that.
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^ This.
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Link resisted it, though. The Song wasn't supposed to just make him take damage, it was supposed to just kill him.
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Neither our resistance page nor the dictionary definition of resistance implies that.
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Yes, he can. If Link can just listen to notes of a song that are supposed to cause him to die, and he's just taking it like basic damage, it isn't any better than a regular attack to him. If someone like Isaac used one of his death spells on him or a death-inducing djinn, it wouldn't really do anything to him. Charo would do nothing to him.
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