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Ok, let me start by saying I'm a bit apprehensive about this one. I've looked up and down the site and the forum and I haven't seen this brought up, but if I'm wrong I apologize. So...
Post-Crisis Superman's tier is...contentious. He has many individual feats that would put him above 4B, but they're mostly inconsistencies and outliers. However, he has a feat that might support some of those outliers: Superman is able to interact with and, to a limited degree manipulate, the Bleed, the inter-dimensional stuff that all of the universes and planes exist in that connects them, like an ocean to various islands. In Final Crisis, Lois is dying and can only be saved by an infusion of Bleed, so Superman goes to obtain it. When he reaches the Monitor/Overmind level, Mandrakk taunts him with a vial of the stuff, claiming that it is impossible to "bottle or consume, except by us," referring to himself and the other Monitors. Mandrakk is ultimately beaten by the Thought Robot and Superman carries a piece of Bleed back into his universe and returning to Lois, where his kiss transfers the Bleed to her. This is noted as a significant feat because, as the narration says, "They said nothing could hold or contain the Bleed, they said. They were wrong. Superman can."
So, the question is what would this actually constitute tier-wise? The Monitors are Tier 4, but the Bleed exists outside of the 4D universes that populate the Multiverse. Some other feats considered dubious or outliers could be supported with this, such as Superman surviving Aztek's "4D Explosion," surviving the Big Bang Imperiex set off, and destroying the "reality-blitzing missiles" of Mandrakk's ship. To go on a tangent to cover something about that last feat, in the debunks I read the primary reason this was considered an outlier was that Superman was still in Limbo and/or still in "boom tube" mode/level of existence. However, I think there's good evidence that it did take place in the lower multiverse, primarily because of the line: "This infinitesimal object from the Monitor World, gigantic in our own...," which to me sounds like it the confrontation with the carrier and its missiles happened below the Monitor/Limbo level of existence.
So...what do you guys think? Is there something to this, or am I horribly mistaken about how this should scale? Let me know...nicely.
Post-Crisis Superman's tier is...contentious. He has many individual feats that would put him above 4B, but they're mostly inconsistencies and outliers. However, he has a feat that might support some of those outliers: Superman is able to interact with and, to a limited degree manipulate, the Bleed, the inter-dimensional stuff that all of the universes and planes exist in that connects them, like an ocean to various islands. In Final Crisis, Lois is dying and can only be saved by an infusion of Bleed, so Superman goes to obtain it. When he reaches the Monitor/Overmind level, Mandrakk taunts him with a vial of the stuff, claiming that it is impossible to "bottle or consume, except by us," referring to himself and the other Monitors. Mandrakk is ultimately beaten by the Thought Robot and Superman carries a piece of Bleed back into his universe and returning to Lois, where his kiss transfers the Bleed to her. This is noted as a significant feat because, as the narration says, "They said nothing could hold or contain the Bleed, they said. They were wrong. Superman can."
So, the question is what would this actually constitute tier-wise? The Monitors are Tier 4, but the Bleed exists outside of the 4D universes that populate the Multiverse. Some other feats considered dubious or outliers could be supported with this, such as Superman surviving Aztek's "4D Explosion," surviving the Big Bang Imperiex set off, and destroying the "reality-blitzing missiles" of Mandrakk's ship. To go on a tangent to cover something about that last feat, in the debunks I read the primary reason this was considered an outlier was that Superman was still in Limbo and/or still in "boom tube" mode/level of existence. However, I think there's good evidence that it did take place in the lower multiverse, primarily because of the line: "This infinitesimal object from the Monitor World, gigantic in our own...," which to me sounds like it the confrontation with the carrier and its missiles happened below the Monitor/Limbo level of existence.
So...what do you guys think? Is there something to this, or am I horribly mistaken about how this should scale? Let me know...nicely.