Slow Start to a huge Black Clover Revision!!!

[Antvasima]

Okay. It is a similar concept though.

 

[AstralKing7]

Idk if Asta physically went but I'll look over the chapter

 

[AstralKing7]

Alright I'm going to start applying the abilities and resistances. I'm not sure if I'm good at making new keys and ratings for his new form tho

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Slightly off topic, but shouldn't Asta have resistance to Life Manipulation and Deconstruction via Anti Magic?


He resisted that weird blob thing which is noted by Yami to steal the life force of everything it touched, along with magic power

Also Asta's anti-magic sword allowed him to block the Demon's lance, which is noted to disintegrate everything it touches

 

[AstralKing7]

Meh his body also has it. Which I'm going to apply

But I'm actually confused about the disintegration part. I was going to bring it up later because it's so damn confusing. Magic cancel vs magic deconstruction.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

They do kind of flip flop betweeen "destroying magic" or "disintegration" but it could be a translation error

 

[AstralKing7]

They mean the same thing tbh but still idk even know what to say. It's not resistance it more like immunity. The Trident wasn't destroyed from magic cancel and the sword wasn't destroyed from dmagic disintegration

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Well then should we give both the proper resistances since that's what they displayed?

 

[AstralKing7]

Need more discussion and it's immunity

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Aren't we usually reallly strict on giving immunity to people's profiles?

 

[AstralKing7]

Hell if I know because the circumstances here don't fit resistances.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I really don't see how

It just shows that both not being effected by each other's hax. It's really good showing, but nothing really implies "complete immunity" by our standards, just really good resistance.

 

[AstralKing7]

I think we need staff input because when your completely unaffected by something your immune.

 

[Antvasima]

We are very reluctant to assign immunity, yes. After all, a stronger version of an ability than what has been displayed in a certain setting might still affect a character.

 

[AstralKing7]

Okay I see

 

[Antvasima]

So what is left to do here?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Yeah what is left to do here?

 

[AstralKing7]

I still have to apply astas resistances

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I'll help you @Astral

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

And shouldn't Asta have a resistance to Willpower Manipulation?

 

[AstralKing7]

Oh I don't know about will power manipulation m you'd have to show some scans

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I mean Asta has showned it since the first episode. But mostly a lot of times.

Willpower Manipulation is: The ability can change the willpower of themselves or the opponent, making it so the user has endless tenacity, or make it so the victim doesn't want to do anything.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

@Astral

So Asta Black Diver form is still Low 7-B but higher right?

 

[AstralKing7]

Currently that would be his AP but in this arc there are some good AP feats that need to be calculated which would scale to Asta.

 

[AstralKing7]

I also don't think Asta qualifies for that ability. You have to literally manipulate wills to have the ability which I've seen before

 

[AstralKing7]

But you should ask staff to clarify

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

One thing: He never gives up. Doesn't matter who it is it doesn't matter he has strong will.

 

[Antvasima]

Just having a very strong will is not enough. Has he resisted others who try to affect it with via supernatural means?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Ok than I guess your right.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for being reasonable,

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Got some new scans. This is for Black Divider Asta and his Enhanced Anti-Magic:


I think Asta should get a Resistance to Spatial Manipulation: The Devil stated that He is completely ignoring the warping effect's of his space

It also shows how his Enhanced Anti-Magic works

 

[Antvasima]

What do the rest of you think about resistance to spatial manipulation?

 

[Starter_Pack]

Yeah, I looked at the pages Boogie brought up.

Seems good.

 

[AstralKing7]

Glad this is still open cause the latest chapter revealed Julius came back to life because his time manipulation rewinded 13 years of stored time he saved with his magic.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that resistance to spatial manipulation should probably be fine then.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

So @Astral says that Julius should have ressurection maybe?

 

[AstralKing7]

Yeah he confirms it himself during the new chapter where he said he time manipulation turned back time

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Do you guys agree with Julius having ressurection?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

But for some reason Julius turned young.