Slight InFAMOUS Revision

[ByAsura]

The crater's small size in-game was previously assumed to be game mechanics, and John White's 5-6 block statement was taken as the actual crater size. However, even cutscenes portray the crater as relatively small, which lines up with John's statement that it "smashed" 5-6 city blocks.

Using the shockwave formula gets 688 tons, while assuming a 20-metre radius and a 10-metre depth gets almost 51.5 kilotons for the crater itself. Not all natural Conduits should scale to this value, though, as Cole comments that people in the vicinity of the blast are less powerful than the person that withstands it point-blank.

As for what this affects, it downgrades half of the verse by 7 megatons. That's all.

 

[Hellbeast]

Pour one out for the bois

 

[Schnee_One]

So 28 for Cole and other scales conduits to 21 megatons? That’s it?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I find it hilarious that downgrading the main feat that a quarter of the verse scales to barely had any effect on anything.

 

[ByAsura]

So 28 for Cole and other scales conduits to 21 megatons? That’s it?

Effectively. Plus, this is just for Conduits from the first game.

 

[RisingIons]

Is the crater supposed to be the place he fights Kessler because I’m not understanding what the video is showing

 

[Schnee_One]

Effectively. Plus, this is just for Conduits from the first game.

Don’t even need any more agreements, barely noticeable and the math is solid

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Is the crater supposed to be the place he fights Kessler because I’m not understanding what the video is showing

It's directly comparing the craters of two different Ray Spheres by flashing between the two of them, thereby showing that the Ray Sphere blast crater in New Marais reminded Cole of one in Empire City, which is where he fights Kessler.

 

[ByAsura]

Is the crater supposed to be the place he fights Kessler because I’m not understanding what the video is showing

The crater in the video is the one where he fought Kessler (the epicentre of the Ray Sphere blast in Empire City), and the other one in New Marais.

 

[ByAsura]

Should I delete the Ray Sphere profile?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Why?

 

[ByAsura]

Because the old calc is getting thrown out. It's not very useful to have anymore, even if a new calc is done.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That's not a reason to remove it. Just replace the calc numbers. Easy.

 

[ByAsura]

It's not just replacing the numbers. It's doing it from the ground up, and that's extremely unnecessary, especially since some of the crater is occluded by part of the screen.

Plus, vaporization is wrong. We see broken, melted and vaporized concrete.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I don't see how it's unnecessary when it scales to half the verse. Massively.

The scaling chain is this: Ray Sphere Blast < Post Blast Cole <<< Sasha < BOG Cole <<< Alden < Mid-Game Cole << Kessler < EOG Cole < Evil Cole.

Not having a calc for the Ray Sphere is gonna send inFAMOUS from near the top of 7-B to the bottom. A recalc is entirely necessary.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Also, the Earthquake feat comes from Kessler, who is at the top of the scaling chain. Everyone else would scale way below him thanks to the amount of amps Cole gets throughout the game. Everyone below him and Cole risks downscaling down to High 7-C if a better Ray Spere calc isn't added.

 

[ByAsura]

Firstly, it affects five people. Those are Cole, Kessler, Sasha, Aiden Tate and David Warner. Well under half the verse even scale to it.

Secondly, that's not even the case. Cole's current feat is a 21-megaton storm calc from the very beginning of the game. They'd still be City level, regardless, and there's a bunch of Town level to Small City level calculations from early to mid-game.

Third, Kessler's calc is also wrong. It's based on the old 5-6 block crater size.

Lastly, the Ray Sphere's explosion is below 7-C+ with a substantial high-ball, which I explained in the OP. As I said, it'd accomplish nothing.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I mean, that's still a considerable chunk for a verse as small as inFAMOUS, but fair enough.

Ah, my mistake. I'd mixed up what exactly everyone scales to.

Although, by that metric, wouldn't the Ray Sphere still be 7-B? Because, Cole performed that feat right after waking up from the blast and he's shown as being severely burned from it. Wouldn't hurting him make the Sphere scale to him? Not sure if that's an argument for keeping or not.

 

[ByAsura]

That's actually a good point. I guess we could keep it, and it makes sense because Cole would have doubled his powers with a second exposure.

I'll make the changes.

 

[ByAsura]

Alright. I've finished the changes.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

In that case, I think we're done here.

May I close this?

 

[ByAsura]

Ok, then.

I'll close it. I was just waiting to see if anyone had any problems with the edits.