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SHuman Gorath Tier Revision

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SHuman-Gorath's page needs to be updated a bit. He is currently listed as "at least 3B," which is quite low, despite being considered as a multi-universal threat to all living beings. SHuman Gorath should be at least Low 2C outside of his realms and 2A within his realms for further specification. Here are a couple of references to reinforce such a change.

- Reference #1 -

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"Strange & Kaluu went on a journey to SHuman's home dimension. They went & traveled into one of SHuman-Gorath's lesser realms (in which SHuman is not as powerful as in his home dimension). In this lesser realm Kaluu collapses, then states: he can no longer go on due to the realm's energy, stating that Mephisto (Marvel Comics) and Satannish are like "mice in a great temple" within a lesser realm of SHuman Gorath."

- Reference #2 -

"The Cancerverse is a reality where life finally defeated Death. Eternal life is fueled by the Many-Angled Ones, who are described as primordial cosmic entities that inhabited the spaces between universes. These extra-dimensional creatures are led by SHuman Gorath, the god of the cancerverse. Furthermore, every living being within this universe was corrupted and turned to servitude, resulting in a universal living corpse."

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I don't see how the second reference may help in the justification because I don't see any AP feats from it. The first reference is interesting though. Do we know how strong/durable Kaluu is?
 
- First Reference Explanation -

According to Kaluu's page at https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Kaluu_(Earth-616)

It states: "Kaluu is possibly the most powerful living human black magician. Kaluu's magic derived from four major sources. Three of these sources are the same ones utilized by Doctor Stephen Strange."

Kaluu is on par with Doctor Strange, hence why he journeyed with the Sorcerer Supreme.

"Kaluu has considerable knowledge of the spells contained within the Darkhold, the most infamous and powerful known volume of black magic. Kaluu has also learned many of the spells contained in the Book of the Vishanti."

- Second Reference Explanation -

In the Thanos Imperative, it states that SHuman Gorath and any many-angled ones can corrupt an entire universe and has filled it with endless life. Abstract & Cosmic entities in this universe such as Death & Galactus was destroyed or turn corrupted.

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Can you specify about what you don't know regarding the second one? The more specific you can be, the better. However, if you are unfamiliar with the Cancerverse, SHuman Gorath, or the very existence of the Many-Angled Ones. It would be helpful to read the Thanos Imperative in whole, because it does refer to the information previously discussed above.
 
Nvm after reading it carefully this time, I agree.

"The Cancerverse is a reality where life finally defeated Death. Eternal life is fueled by the Many-Angled Ones, who are described as primordial cosmic entities that inhabited the spaces between universes. These extra-dimensional creatures are led by SHuman Gorath, the god of the cancerverse"
 
Honestly his 3-B key should just be removed given that's just the mere power of his aura. 2-C would probably be good for him given how a lot of Marvel's cosmic entities work, but I think just leaving a single 2-A key would be fine.
 
Yeah! I'm pretty new here and even I thought 3B tier was way off/ odd. Thank you all for the inputs & such. It just helps to be as clear & accurate as possible. However, I think a solid to 2A is perfectly fine. If someone wishes to be more specific, then perhaps one could say: a solid 2C outside of his realms, and 2A within the realms he conquered, but overall he's a strong solid 2A.
 
Is somebody experienced willing to update the page, or ask PrinceOfTheMorning to do so?
 
Antvasima said:
Is somebody experienced willing to update the page, or ask PrinceOfTheMorning to do so?
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I can do it when I get home in about seven or eight hours. Just tell me what needs to be changed to what.
 
I don't remember so well anymore, but you can read the preceeding posts and then edit the page accordingly if you wish. I have also asked POTM for help.

I will unlock the SHuman-Gorath page. Tell me here when you are done.
 
As long as you know what you are doing, you can start. Qawsedf can always improve on it further afterwards.
 
Competent help is always appreciated, yes.
 
Well, feel free to do so.
 
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