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I agree with OP, for the simple reasons presented above!
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Shrek Downgrades
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Knocking a bull over by tripping it is not the same as tanking a full charge from a bull
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Doesn't change the fact that he overpowered it
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He didnt overpower it, he tripped it. He has no reason to scale to it because the method that he did it does not involve physical strength or durability
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He clearly overpowered it while it was charging at full-force in order to save that old lady, he didn't just trip it, so do explain how he didn't overpower it. Cause clearly a normal cat wouldn't be able to do that which you're trying to imply.
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Again, no, he did not overpower anything, he tripped the bull. This would be like making all humans IRL 9-B because cow-tipping exists.
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The 8-C calc was always weird for me, but I absolutely disagree with the "anti-feats", as it's still a silly movie, the writers do not care about this shit.
9-B for the majority of the Shrek-verse seems good though.
9-B for the majority of the Shrek-verse seems good though.
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He literally just did. And regular domesticated cats (hell, he's even a kitten in this context) are literally even weaker than regular humans in real life either way, so your point?
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Incorrect. Changing the momentum of he bull by shifting its head so it trips from the sudden shift in its center of gravity is not the same as physically taking the brunt of the bull's charge and bringing it to a stop
DaMonkeMan
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"A small kitten slamming a bull and overpowering it doesn't mean anything"
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But a regular person couldn't change the momentum of a charging bull anyway.
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Dude, just look how quick he took it down in just one go, how is he not overpowering it according to you?
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And Puss is a literal hitman, and would have easily killed Shrek was he not sick.
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Overpowering would be Puss standing in front of the bull, putting his paws out, and bringing the bull to a dead stop. That is what overpowering is. All Puss did was knock it off balance and make it trip, which is impressive but not the same as tanking the charge from the bull.
DaMonkeMan
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I didn't think this needed to be said but literally pulling someone by the horns and slamming them down is an easy LS feat and then some.
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He didnt pull the bull by the horns, he grabbed them as he was falling and tripped it using his momentum
DaMonkeMan
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The bull was falling BECAUSE he grabbed his horns.
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Yes? If a sudden weight change hits you outside of your center of gravity and knocks you off balance, youre going to fall. That doesnt mean he physically pulled the bull to the ground.
DaMonkeMan
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He was exerting too much force.
In order to stop something you must have equal force/power. This is common knowledge. If Puss was too weak, the Bull would have kept running and he'd just be holding onto the horns.
DaMonkeMan
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Okay let's say I was holding a plane's wing. I'm just an ordinary human guy, so I'd be hanging on the plane while it flies around.
But if I had like, Class K/M LS, I could easily yank that plane down like the Hulk.
The same applies here.
A normal kitten would never be able to take down a bull by yanking it's horns like that. Puss did it because he has abnormal strength above the bull.
But if I had like, Class K/M LS, I could easily yank that plane down like the Hulk.
The same applies here.
A normal kitten would never be able to take down a bull by yanking it's horns like that. Puss did it because he has abnormal strength above the bull.
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...What? No, you wouldnt be able to do that, you have no source of leverage to do so unless you are also able to fly
DaMonkeMan
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Puss literally had 0 leverage and was hanging onto the bull's horn yet he still pulled him down.
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Until shit like the giant Goose breaking a bridge is calced, he'd probably have a "At leaat 9-B, possibly 9-A"
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He's just upscaling above Puss and that's it
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8-C being removed or just limited to the Dragon is fine. Puss would just scale to one of his or Shrek's 9-B feats.
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How many joules is 9-B Shrek though?
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Why, as Death he'd have to capable of killing everyone, Mountain Giant and Giant Goose included, not just mid-high tiers like Puss
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Isn't that the point?
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The Giant took minor piercing damage from Puss and got killed by being taco bell'd
Puss didn't even fight the Goose
Death would have possibly scaling to the former since the ladder being too heavy for a damn bridge ain't been calced
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Would anyone actually scale to the Goose? None of the characters harmed her during the movie.
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You're right nobody did, but Death would need to be able to damage her to kill her, but it's 100% a "possibly" for a reason
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That's assuming that he literally goes there himself to kill every person, but he doesn't. He only goes out in-person to kill others on special occasions when he feels people are unworthy of their lives. He probably uses death manipulation hax since he is death personified.
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Remind me when Death has shown Death hax?
Show me.
It's not even upscaling it's "He needs to be able to kill them", he's downscaling more then anything
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You're starting to confuse me, the "He needs to be able to kill them" is literally why he even scales in the first place. And what would he even downscale from?
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Just because you can damage someone doesn't mean you scale to or above them.
To use an example from One Piece, Ace can damage Whitebeard but WB still claps Ace's ass like 100 times
Or to use an example from Warriors Cats, Jayfeather can damage Breezepelt but Breezepelt still bounces his ass around like a ping pong ball.
DaMonkeMan
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No those 100 times were just him trying to get close and trying to sufficiently damage him and at the 100th one he finally burnt him.
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