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Should Goddess Magic be Lightspeed? ( Nanatsu No Taizai Thread)
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Sooo we gonna ignore the problems with this?
Rabbit2002
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The OP literally addresses almost all these problems if you read. As for physical interactions, especially in Galand's case, he can lift the Ark, giving him the NPI of an intangible thing made of elements instead because the Ark is made of physical things.
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Address what? They only gave positive points for it to be considered lightspeed.
They didn't address the bending, the being able to physically push people, the treating the light as if it was physical and being able to change shape and sizes.
Edit: And you know that saying Ark is made of physical things disqualifies it right?
They didn't address the bending, the being able to physically push people, the treating the light as if it was physical and being able to change shape and sizes.
Edit: And you know that saying Ark is made of physical things disqualifies it right?
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Rabbit2002
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I'm not saying he has already addressed all the issues; I just say almost or perhaps a few of them. I even explain that some cases like Galand can physically interact with the Ark, which should grant him non-physical interaction with intangible things made out of elements instead of treating the Ark as if it were physical. As for being able to change shape and size, I don't see why it can be disqualified when the user can manipulate the light at the particle level (possibly photon), which makes them possible to be capable of bending the light, altering it shape into other forms like a ball of light instead of just a straight light
Faa_Tzy
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I guess so
I'm sure that the Ark in laser form is really an LS, because it has met the criteria. Anti-feats are definitely there, but can't that be ignored since the goddess is able to manipulate light?
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Being able to manipulate light doesn't allow you to ignore the anti-feats for it.
I remember there being a thread on it. I'll post it if I can find it.
I remember there being a thread on it. I'll post it if I can find it.
Rabbit2002
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It can if the original light is actually made of photon stuff, then the user can bend them because they can manipulate the light, this is something common in fiction when the character can bend even the natural light stuff
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It’s not, they just have opposite elements
Yes and said weaklings were shown to be able to touch a canon FTL caracter with ark (Mael)
Characters that manipulate light can alter it’s form and nature, photons are a physics constant just being able to change it’s shape don’t necessarily mean it changes it’s speed
None of the attacks that are shown are even ark
Light is used as a weapon and magic in NNT comes from natural elements that the mages can manip and alter to a variety of uses
They did reflect on Gideon only her could interact with the beam
No one blocked the light dude blocked falling rocks
As for the people running someone adressed it already
Litteraly contradicts his previous « once it hits Diane they extinguish immediately »
Not Even called ark Just light manip i adressed why light benders can… bend natural light in NNT
Same shi
All demons have NPI
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I really hate the whole “fodder character____” argument it’s really just so disingenuous. Like for example Px’s in one piece use kizaru’s DF power for their lasers and it’s accepted as LS, despite them being fodders to the current power of the verse.
All the goddesses we have a profile would only be getting SOL attack speed
All the goddesses we have a profile would only be getting SOL attack speed
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Light Speed Standard Revision
Hi everyone. While I had the chance, I wanted to make a thread to discuss our current standards for Laser/Light beam dodging and what we find is, or isnt, acceptable to be a light speed attack. "Should our standards not be tight anymore?" NO. This is not what im pushing for and im addressing...
Found it. Unless standards have changed, being a light manipulator doesn’t excuse the fact that bending the light can impact its speed so you can’t assume it’s SOL anymore.
Also having NPI for souls does not mean you can touch light they are completely different from one another. That’s why we put down what they can interact with in the description.
Unless you gonna tell me because you can interact with souls you can interact with all non-tangible stuff.
And this thread is about NNT so I don’t know why you’re bringing up OP.
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NNT's magic is based purely on natural elements, the same applies to Ark, (it is literally called "particles of light") plus there are a wide variety of FTL characters in the verse, this is not only not far-fetched, but consistent with what is shown throughout the entire series.Light Speed Standard Revision
Hi everyone. While I had the chance, I wanted to make a thread to discuss our current standards for Laser/Light beam dodging and what we find is, or isnt, acceptable to be a light speed attack. "Should our standards not be tight anymore?" NO. This is not what im pushing for and im addressing...vsbattles.com
Found it. Unless standards have changed, being a light manipulator doesn’t excuse the fact that bending the light can impact its speed so you can’t assume it’s SOL anymore.
Also having NPI for souls does not mean you can touch light they are completely different from one another. That’s why we put down what they can interact with in the description.
Unless you gonna tell me because you can interact with souls you can interact with all non-tangible stuff.
And this thread is about NNT so I don’t know why you’re bringing up OP.
Rabbit2002
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Are you really paying attention to our words or not. We were told that they had a different non-physical interaction with the elements instead of just considering the light ball that Galland lifted is a physical thing. That's normal, if the character can touch souls we allow them to have non-physically interact with incorporeality, and if the character can touch intangible things like elementals then they will have non-physical interaction with intangible made of elements. Unless if you have some statement showing that the light ball Galland lift is a physical manifestation then I'm okay with
Rabbit2002
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And it won't affect the OP's point at all. The OP's point here is to prove that the Ark has the speed of light by proving it is real light, even if light controllers can bend light and affect the speed, then this doesn't change the fact that many times the Goddess shoots beams in a straight path that are actually at the speed of light because it is literally a natural light
