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Shao Kahn vs Yhwach

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Yhwach has all his abilities

Shao Kahn is unrestricted

Speed is equalized

Morals are on

Shao Kahn: 0

Yhwach: 8 (AppleLord, Byakuya "Senbonzakura" Kuchiki, Unite My Rice, Gargoyle One, LordAizenSama, Knightofannihilation666, AllanSaiyan, and Stick695)

Inconclusive: 1 (God-King Superman77)
 
Shao Kahn one shots.

Discounting that, he can't be put down due to Low Godly regen, and his soul Hax is far more potent.

Voting for Shao
 
Everyone in Bleach has resistance to soul manipulation.

EDIT: As ffor the thread id go with inconclusive aswell
 
Resistance yes, but all you have to do is over tax it, which Shao Kahn can do.

Shao Kahn can absorb the souls of all life on Earth within a few minutes, it took Raiden, Shao Kahns equal, to give all the warriors soul resistance so they wouldn't be absorbed.

Also Yhwach has Moon level Dura
 
The likes of Tatsuki pre-timeskip can resist having her soul being sucked out by someone 10s of thousands of times stronger then her, and she was more or less a regular human.

Shao Kahn has no business with Yhwach in that regard.
 
How strong is the person who tried to absorb Tatsuki? Can she absorb all the souls of every human on Earth?
 
Shes pretty much a normal human. So no.

The point is even relatively normal humans can resist soul hax. So where has Shao kahn ever dealt with someone with soul hax resistance and overpowered it?

EDIT: It was yammy, I think hes around 8-a.
 
I guess, fair enough.

I admit I don't really know Bleach that much so I found it hard to believe that he can resist absorbing the souls of everyone on earth with no effort.
 
To be fair Tatsuki barely survived it considering how easily Yammy was crushing her soul just by being close to her. Yammy even said she was just lucky. I agree it's resistance but it shouldn't be as great that some give it credit for.
 
We don't even need that feat. Is a basic and fundamental feat of course, but think about it. Quincy remove Hollows from existence with their arrows, and Hollows are still made of Human souls, Yhwach himself "a human" as Quincy are classify, shoot himself through the heart with one of his own arrows, and he was unaffected by it. That's resistance to soul existence erasure.
 
And how does that compare to, perhaps I should make this clear

EASILY ANSORBING ALL LIFE ON EARTH
 
Do all people on Earth have resistance to soul manipulation? Have Shao used on someone with resistance to soul manipulation? In the Bleach storyline when Yhwach becomes Soul King he uses his own power to bring stability to 3 Worlds connected by the chaotic mass of souls in the afterlife.
 
But if Yhwach was hit from those arrows in Reishi form, then that isn't resistance since in order to be in the Soul Society/Soul Kings Dimension you need to become pure reishi. If Yhwach is unaffected by Quincy Arrows while in Reishi Form, he isn't a human at that time but in the form of a spirit.

That's like saying all soul reapers have resistance to Soul manipulating because they can tank hits from Zanpakuto's while in Shinigami form, which is also spiritual.
 
If all his abilities = Yhwach taking back the power/knowledge/experience of all the dead sternritters, how does Shao not get blinked out of existence with The V? He would need high-godly regen.
 
Bringing stability=/=Absorbing Souls

I still haven't seen any feats showing anything above what I mentioned
 
Souls are made of reishi particles and versus matches are equalized. As you can see I already though about it and it changes nothing because you're comparing two different races with different abilities.
 
Stability means he controls all the souls in the afterlife while Shao only absorb one single world. In the same page, does Shao have resistance to Soul Manipulation? What's stopping Yhwach from touching him and implant part of his soul in him, and then take it back with Auswhalen and making Shao a skeleton like he did to Gerard who could regenerate from pure reishi and was Nigh-immortal.
 
Unite My Rice said:
If all his abilities = Yhwach taking back the power/knowledge/experience of all the dead sternritters, how does Shao not get blinked out of existence with The V? He would need high-godly regen.
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But
 
Low-Godly is Regenerationn as long as his consciousness exist. Been absorb by Yhwach and be left as a bare skeleton should work. No consciousness to comeback from. So Yhwach wins.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
To be fair Tatsuki barely survived it considering how easily Yammy was crushing her soul just by being close to her. Yammy even said she was just lucky. I agree it's resistance but it shouldn't be as great that some give it credit for.
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Of course its god dam impressive, Yammy was 100s of thousands of times stronger then her and she atill lived. Now imagine how much Soul resistance one must have if you can control your reiatsu and have a absurd amount of reiatsu.

Yammy saying it was luck means nothing, he was extremely cocky and arrogant, typical of his nature
 
LordAizenSama said:
Of course its god dam impressive, Yammy was 100s of thousands of times stronger then her and she atill lived. Now imagine how much Soul resistance one must have if you can control your reiatsu and have a absurd amount of reiatsu.

Yammy saying it was luck means nothing, he was extremely cocky and arrogant, typical of his nature
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Actually now that I remember, isnt Gonzui limited by the strength of the opponent rather than them being resistant to it? We only see Yammy use it like once in Bleach as far as I know and has only worked on fodder who were below Tatsuki. Perhaps it can't work on those who have a signifigant amount of reiatsu?

It was his own technique which he should understand entirely on what it can/can't do. How does being cocky and arrogant mean he's overestimating its capabilities? It's implied even more that it was luck when Yammy asked Ulquiorra if she was one of the "only few in the human world with strong spiritual pressure" and he replied that she was complete trash for having her soul be crushed by just their presence, making the belief of her being able to resist the attack nothing more than a one time lucky thing.
 
Reiatsu=exertion of reiryoku which is the power of the soul. So stronger opponents means stronger resistance to soul manipulation.

There is no such thing as luck, luck is a word used to describe scenarios we dont understand or don't care to know in this case. There is always a reason for why things happen

> How does being cocky and arrogant mean he's overestimating its capabilities?

Um.. very easily. I don't know how to explain this since its so obvious but cockiness and overconfident personalities means you would blame other circumstances.

Wait. Is this Yhwach with sternritter powers?
 
Tatsuki is a kind of an odd case. She was able to stay in a close distance to Aizen without getting deleted and resist having her soul sucked by Yami when countless other people were getting sucked.

Now considering other people such as Hanatarou was rendered unconscious and foaming from the mouth by being in a relatively long distance from Kenpachi when he was releasing his Aura, Tatsuki's feats seem to be pretty much PIS. Either that, or Hanatarou is sub-human.
 
Completely different scenarios. Gonzui is a technique designed for absorbing souls, as for being close to Aizen he restricted his reiatsu and she still felt like her existance was close to being erased. This was not a attack, it was his mere existance even when limiting himself.

I dont see why you would compare Hanatarou to Tatsuki either. Completely random and have nothing to do with eachother. And Hanatarou is probably human level aswell.

Oh, and Yhwach wins via his sternritter power V and F
 
And yet Tatsuki was about to faint when Yami was near her as well.

The comparison is made because Shinigamis posses high amounts of Reiryoku while Humans do not, except in very rare cases. If Hanatarou collapsed from Kenpachi's Aura, Tatsuki would've probably died from it or rendered catatonic.

And it's not only Hanatarou feeling Kenpachi's pressure, Ichigo and Ganju were overwhelmed as well, although not to that point obviously. If Ichigo and Ganju were under that much pressure from Kenpachi, Tatsuki resisting Yami's and Aizen's presence is dubious at best.
 
Because she was weakened heavily due to the soulsuck obviously..

Firstly, that is not true (Hello Quincys/Fullbringers) secondly they are just souls. You don't need exceptional reiryoku to join the Gotei 13, inparticular the fourth squad which is noted for being especially weak and not combat orientated.

Tatsuki wasn't going to faint when aizen was near she was going to get erased.

Wha youre arguing is pretty silly, as if you expect each instance where people get reiatsu crushed perfectly measures to other characters and if it doesnt ( Or in this case you think it doesn't) it's apparently dubious. Now you're trying to say ichigo and ganju somehow make it dubious. Common now.

Just arguing from incredibility really.
 
Yes, I already mentioned very special cases in humans have high spiritual powers and Quincy fall under that category. They specifically trained to be able to manipulate Reishi. Tatsuki has done no such thing. And souls or not, Shinigamis (even the weakest ones) have more spiritual powers than Ichigo's friend #32. The very fact that the can see other Shinigamis is a testament to this.

Technically we're veering off topic so...yeah.
 
Um. Tatsuki can see Shinigamis aswell?? That does not prove they have more reiryoku then her.

And yes we are. A completely pointless one...
 
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