Shantae vs Nico Robin

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

SBA put the distance at the highest range of either combatant with 4km at the maximum allowed SBA distance.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Robin's range is her range of vision and a nornmal human's vision on a clear day with flat terrain is 4.8 km

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Central Park is anything but flat

 

[AquaWaifu]

Hmm Im aware. So whats the startig distance then? Im thinking it may lead to a slight possible change in the outcome of this fight.

 

[The_Calaca]

Robin can grow eyes in the surroundings to avoid getting caught by surprise and enhance her eyesight.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Robin hard counters her defenses.

Forgot to say, Robin FRA

 

[Ryuga21]

3 for Robin

0 for Shantae

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

I think ya might have mis-counted Ryuga

Robin - 6 (Schnee, Apies, Ryuga, Dileeden, Tetsucabrah, Calaca)

Shantae - 0

 

[AquaWaifu]

Im still unsure of how invincibility affects strangulation or attempts to break bones

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

It wouldn't really matter as Robin's massive LS advantage means Shantae can't really break out.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes, I'm voting Robin.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Would Shantae suddenly transforming disrupt Robin's hold on her? Afterall Seven Sirens shows she can transform without dancing, meaning we go from teenage girl size to elephant or mouse size in a single moment, now those arms coming out of Shantae's body are too small to restrain Elephant Shantae or too large to really grapple mouse Shantae.


also Shantae having spinning swords around her would absolutely hit Robin's limbs given how they fly around Shantae.

Shantae might even be willing to take damage in that situation given her abundance of healing items, and her healing dance to undo it.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Wait she can do it without dancing? Huh, that's neat. Haven't seen gameplay for Seven Sirens since I want to play it blind.

 

[The_Calaca]

Neither of those would stop Robin from doing it again. In fact, turning into a mouse would make it easier and Robin's LS is enough to put the elephant down too.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Wait she can do it without dancing? Huh, that's neat. Haven't seen gameplay for Seven Sirens since I want to play it blind.

We should probably wait for the game to actually come out before we make any changes to her profile.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Robin - 6 (Schnee, Apies, Ryuga, Dileeden, Tetsucabrah, Calaca)

Shantae - 0

This is where we're at.

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Nico Robin FRA

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Neither of those would stop Robin from doing it again. In fact, turning into a mouse would make it easier and Robin's LS is enough to put the elephant down too.

I doubt turning into a mouse will make this more difficult. She's going to become very small, thus making the hands losing their grip as they will be grabbing on to nothing. Shantae can then just teleport to keep her distance and give herself some defenses. Also...Shantae's ap is 6.02488992648291 megatons. Nico's ap from what I can find is 1.3 megatons. That's almost a 5x ap advantage for Shantae, so Nico won't be able to kill her quickly, giving Shantae enough time to escape. If what Aqua says is true and Shantae can really do her belly dances without actually dancing in Seven Sirens, then obliterate dance can probably destroy the hands.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Im just finding it odd how lifting strength means she can kill Shantae. like how does it ignore Shantae's AP/Durability difference?

 

[DatOneWeeb]

It doesn't, your lifting strength doesn't mean you can tear something with a better durability apart. Nico's ap is lower than Shantae's, so tearing her apart is no easy task. All this will is restrain Shantae, not kill her.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Shantae could just summon storm puff above her to shock herself to hurt Robin's hands.

 

[The_Calaca]

A mouse isn't small enough to escape from a hand's grip. If anything, Robin might lose it in a few, but one of them would catch her for sure unless you want to argue that Robin is completely stationary while Shantae do this.

Robin doesn't attack in the same way other characters do. She grabs you and snap your spine. That's totally reliant on Lifting Strength as Shantae needs to use her physical force to prevent getting snapped.

Your durability can be as high as you want but it doesn't necessarily protect you from getting your spine broken from the sheer pressure of your body. You can be a musclehead, but bend your spine enough and it will break no matter how strong you are.

 

[AquaWaifu]

wait what if she transformed int oher tree form or her gem jug form, both don't have conventional bodies, no spines to break.

 

[The_Calaca]

Then Robin would break the tree in half, way worse result.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

robin fra.

she simply breaks his spine, and if things start to get difficult she can play from a distance or simply occupy a clone to distract Shantae while she keeps an eye on her throughout the force field.

 

[The_Calaca]

Robin can't clone yet.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

ah anyway doesn't change things much at least in this match.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Then Robin would break the tree in half, way worse result.

this lifting strength argument is nonsensical

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

TBF, it's worked that way here for a bit now.

 

[The_Calaca]

If I start choking you in a way you can't hit me, you'll need LS to get free from my grip. Your AP is useless and your LS is lower than mine, so I can choke you to death.

Robin herself says the brute strength is useless against her. She could break Shantae's leg if she feels like it, even, but he goes for Clutch either the spine or the neck.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Wouldnt Shantae using inulnerability act as a shield prevent the breaking motion from beginning? It'd be ike trying to break the neck of someone covered in armor comapred to unclothed.

 

[The_Calaca]

She would need to open with that, and we already covered that part.

 

[AquaWaifu]

its thought based and she can react qucker than it takes hands to snap her spine/neck

 

[The_Calaca]

And she can try to do anything else too.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

And that's grace.

Just an fyi, Brook vs Shantae is still on going.

 

[The_Calaca]

I'll close this now. Someone add the results.