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But the reasoning that dante doesn't use his hax in character because his opponents are fodder isn't good because bayonetta tends to start of with her best hax even when they are weaker or stronger.

And I was told if there isn't any proof or evidence to show that a character uses his/her best hax in character even if serious than that means they do not.
 
Bayonetta is a bad example in this case because her Witch Time is her signature ability and she uses it on instinctive level

Using hax against someone who's on par with you is pretty much common sense
 
Why wasn't this Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry and Knuckles?
 
In the first game she mostly beat all of her opponents with little to no effort. Yes witch time is her best ability she doesn't always have to use but 9/10 she will use it regardless of the opponent. And this can be said about shadow without the rings on him.
 
@Blue

We've already told you that using Bayonetta here is false equivalency and she has nothing to do with neither Dante nor Shadow
 
No it isn't I showed you why just because a character is fodder doesn't mean you don't have to use your best hax to take them out I just used bayonetta as an example.
 
Just because one character from a completely different verse likes to abuse her time hax on fodder characters doesn't apply to a character who doesn't use his hax on fodder
 
Bayonetta didn't have to use her hax either, but she used them anyway, because that's what her character is

And you can't say it isn't just because
 
And again, Bayonetta has nothing to do with this match at all. You're using false equivalency again.
 
It's not false equivalency I just used her to prove why what @reb said isn't necessarily the cast and as for dante he hasn't used his hax in character regardless of fodder or not so going by that he doesn't use his hax in character.
 
It's in character for bayo to use her hax on fodder

It's not in character for Dante to use his hax on fodder

In case in this fight shadow is not fodder so Dante is going to use his hax
 
But can you provide evidence of him ever doing so before shadow takes him out. I mean mundus wasn't fodder and neither was Virgil and yet he still didn't use his hax.

Saying dante uses his hax because shadow isn't fodder is a fallacy. That's like someone saying a planet buster can defeat a outerverse character because they haven't went all out yet and reached their full potential. We have to go off what they have shown not imply that a character would do this because of such and such so no dante is not going to use his hax in character or at least not before shadow puts him down.

I mean the only reasoning y'all have really said is that dante is a lot more serious in this version so he haxes and wins despite never being shown to actually use his moves in character.

While shadow who is mostly always serious does use his hax in character and if you want I can back up my statement with evidence. And now we are using a version of him without his rings holding him back further increasing his power.
 
Vergil's only hax is Spatial Manipulation and Dante resists it with Rebellion. And he did use Quicksilver against him, mind you.

Mundus was beaten via sheer AP with Sparda Devil Trigger along with outside help from Trish and he didn't have much hax either, plus he's resistant to Time Stop.
 
When did he use quicksilver in character against him

O and dante doesn't resist spatial manipulation or else it should be added to his page.
 
And the reasons given aren't even true considering y'all haven't provide me with any evidence videos are nothing to support your claims.
 
It will be in an hour or two.

And unfortunately, cutscenes as evidence do not apply to the games like DMC. But we tend to assume that the characters always use all of their abilities unless proven otherwise
 
No according to @gar cutscene are canon not the gameplay itself and That's for all games not just one genre or another.
 
Gameplay can be canon in specific cases as well. There's an obvious difference between game mechanics and the real stuff, so it's not too hard to make a difference between these two
 
Gameplay can't define a character's personality or what they do in character because the actions they take aren't their own that's why we go buy cutscene.

That being said how do y'all even know of what hax dante is going to even start off with even if he does use his hax.
 
I'm going for Mid Life Crisis Dante for Gar's reasons Chrono Heart and Trickster is an easy counter to Chaos Control
 
@Blue I've explained you why using hax against someone who's on par with you is common sense and gave you an example but you still keep blowing a really big stuff out of such a simple thing like action game character not being shown to use his abilities against his rivals
 
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