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And it is currently being talked about as to how or low the sonic cast are in high 6-A also.
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ShadOW THE hEDGEhog vs Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
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O ya and the 511 petatons is just a low ball as well as depending on if ifrit destroyed the world or surface of the world outright it could be near one exaton and said feat could have been casual as tails and other say that ifrit could destroy several worlds with ease.
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Still not sure how "Barely 3x stronger at the max lowball" means Shadow isn't getting hurt by one let alone multiple slashes from someone barely that weaker then him.
Like, 300 to above 511 isn't even a 2x difference, hell assuming he's 800 Pettatons isn't even higher then 3x. Shrugging off a person's attacks entirely requires at least 5x stronger.
Moving on from the AP.
<Dante won't be serious enough
If this was DMC4 or 3 Dante, I could see your point, this is DMC2 Dante, someone who, in literally every fight of that game, immediately went for the kill
-He one shotted Argosax immediately and blitzed him
-He immediately Stomps Arius
The issue with him not being serious isn't exactly there, he still makes an occasional joke, but does not spare the enemy any expense.
Also, the clones are fodder to him and not really an argument, otherwise I could go on about how legit the entire game of DMC2 is Dante beating one High 6A after another for an entire 24 hour day and not having any real issues
Defeating people and still fighting is a stamina feat, not an AP feat.
Like, 300 to above 511 isn't even a 2x difference, hell assuming he's 800 Pettatons isn't even higher then 3x. Shrugging off a person's attacks entirely requires at least 5x stronger.
Moving on from the AP.
<Dante won't be serious enough
If this was DMC4 or 3 Dante, I could see your point, this is DMC2 Dante, someone who, in literally every fight of that game, immediately went for the kill
-He one shotted Argosax immediately and blitzed him
-He immediately Stomps Arius
The issue with him not being serious isn't exactly there, he still makes an occasional joke, but does not spare the enemy any expense.
Also, the clones are fodder to him and not really an argument, otherwise I could go on about how legit the entire game of DMC2 is Dante beating one High 6A after another for an entire 24 hour day and not having any real issues
Defeating people and still fighting is a stamina feat, not an AP feat.
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I would like to point out that Dante did one shot Abigail
Anyway Dante for reasons above
Anyway Dante for reasons above
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Also shadow isn't just going to stand there and let dante hit him he will dodge and counter dante and dante will do the same however on like dante shadow will go for his hax to try and end the fight much quicker before dante does and he is also going to be amplifying his attacks as well. Even in his restricted form shadow tends to go for the kill outright or at least defeat his opponent and him now being unrestricted he isn't going to try and give dante a chance to pull out his abilities before getting finished off. And there isn't any proof that the clones are fodder considering shadow had to remove just two of his rings to beat them. No what i am saying is defeating someone around your level is an ap feat are else you would be one shotted or lose the fight.
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O and I am not saying it want hurt shadow but it want do much damage to him compared to what he might do to dante.
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Also nobody is going to be blitzing here due to speed being equalized and argosax could have moved out the way but chose to stand there and get one shotted. I am just going by what dante does in character and he hardly ever tries and use his hax to end fights outright or in the long run.
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Can't you just type in one post?
The exact same can be said for Dante tho, he doesn't stand there and tank an unnecessary hit without a clue about what it's going to do to him.
It absolutely WILL, do damage to him tho, shrugging off an attack and not taking match damage requires far more then being not even 3x stronger as I've had to repeat.
Every. Single. Fight in DMC2 is literally Dante outright ending or defeating his opponents.
The exact same can be said for Dante tho, he doesn't stand there and tank an unnecessary hit without a clue about what it's going to do to him.
It absolutely WILL, do damage to him tho, shrugging off an attack and not taking match damage requires far more then being not even 3x stronger as I've had to repeat.
Every. Single. Fight in DMC2 is literally Dante outright ending or defeating his opponents.
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Ya I will try and post in one I just didn't want to have lots of big paragraphs on here but I will start doing it.
The thing is though it want be as much damage to shadow who is above 511 petatons as it will be to dante who is possibly above 300 petatons. Meaning dante is going to be beat up a lot more than shadow would be. And yes both will try and go for the kill but shadow is more likely than dante to use his hax to get the win more effectively.
Especially when you consider shadow tends to be a serious get the job done quick fighter and with his rings of he is basically bloodlusted and isn't holding back anything. Not only is he hitting dante with his full force but now he is even more powerful,unrestricted, and is also amplifying both his speed and attack power so now dante has to deal with that.
O and if the chrono heart were passive it should have activated when dante slashed at argosax.
The thing is though it want be as much damage to shadow who is above 511 petatons as it will be to dante who is possibly above 300 petatons. Meaning dante is going to be beat up a lot more than shadow would be. And yes both will try and go for the kill but shadow is more likely than dante to use his hax to get the win more effectively.
Especially when you consider shadow tends to be a serious get the job done quick fighter and with his rings of he is basically bloodlusted and isn't holding back anything. Not only is he hitting dante with his full force but now he is even more powerful,unrestricted, and is also amplifying both his speed and attack power so now dante has to deal with that.
O and if the chrono heart were passive it should have activated when dante slashed at argosax.
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Worth noting the only actual hax that Shadow has that can instawi against Dante is time stop. BFR can be escaped by flyng, Dante himself has time stop and time slow, and it stacks with every hit, and Yamato which I never mentioned and Shadow gets transumted by Gilgamesh, or frozen with cerberus, Dante simply has so many different options to kill Shadow that he needs to imedately go for the kill or Dante gets up pissed of and haxes him
Dante has a chance at surving time stop, Shadow does not if he uses Yamato
Dante has a chance at surving time stop, Shadow does not if he uses Yamato
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That's good and all but he want use those in character as he tends to only use sword and guns even when serious.Shadow has three ways to kill dante can absorb him/rip him to shreds, can bfr him, and he has time stop. Also show me dante's time stop stacking up on each other to. Shadow could just easily teleport to dante and bfr him if he ttys to fly away.
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Dante is more likely to go for Time Stop in character then Shadow is.
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No he isn't shadow has shown to time stop in character unlike dante who has never been shown to do so in character.
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This is dmc 2 Dante he is not a jokester he is very serious and will always go for the kill and ends fights quickly
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The only reason Dante wasn't shown to use Yamato and various other weapons is because they weren't ever shown until DMC3.
I mean, this logic is kind of faulty when it comes down to these kinds of games
I mean, this logic is kind of faulty when it comes down to these kinds of games
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Yes but and so is shadow the difference is though that even when serious dante still didn't use his hax in character. Would have been way more effective to just time stop walk up to argosax and boom dead fights over.
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That's because argosax is far weaker then him so using his hax would just be a waste of time when he could just kill him with ease
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Than what about in devil may cry 4 and why doesn't he use any of the other abilities he does gain during the games in character.RebubleUselet said:
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That's simply to introduce new devil arms
And again everyone else is far weaker to Dante so there is no need for him to fall back on his hax
And again everyone else is far weaker to Dante so there is no need for him to fall back on his hax
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^^^ ThisSparda 20000000 said:
And here's LordGriffin's reply regarding this topic:
It's pretty common for characters to not have the weapons they had in the first game or prequal. But that's just so the creators can make new weapons and such, yet since it's the same Dante, he should have the weapons from before.
It's simply not to make the later games boring/repetitive. Just like how in God of War, one of the few things Kratos keeps is his Chain Blades as their his primary weapon like Dante's Rebellion but he gets new weapons on his next adventure even though at the end of the game you had others.
Maybe Dante just tossed them in his closet. Either way, for verses it's assumed he still has them I guess.
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Ok dude no you can't just say o he is weaker so he just wanted to do things the long way before finishing him of. Considering dante is so serious he would have known to just simply time stop and kill him and call it a day.Sparda 20000000 said:
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^^^ This
And here's LordGriffin's reply regarding this topic:
It's pretty common for characters to not have the weapons they had in the first game or prequal. But that's just so the creators can make new weapons and such, yet since it's the same Dante, he should have the weapons from before.
It's simply not to make the later games boring/repetitive. Just like how in God of War, one of the few things Kratos keeps is his Chain Blades as their his primary weapon like Dante's Rebellion but he gets new weapons on his next adventure even though at the end of the game you had others.
Maybe Dante just tossed them in his closet. Either way, for verses it's assumed he still has them I guess.
That's not what I am saying though as I agree with that 100% what I saying is dante want use his abilities or devil arms he just gained in the game at that moment in character.
And here's LordGriffin's reply regarding this topic:
It's pretty common for characters to not have the weapons they had in the first game or prequal. But that's just so the creators can make new weapons and such, yet since it's the same Dante, he should have the weapons from before.
It's simply not to make the later games boring/repetitive. Just like how in God of War, one of the few things Kratos keeps is his Chain Blades as their his primary weapon like Dante's Rebellion but he gets new weapons on his next adventure even though at the end of the game you had others.
Maybe Dante just tossed them in his closet. Either way, for verses it's assumed he still has them I guess.
That's not what I am saying though as I agree with that 100% what I saying is dante want use his abilities or devil arms he just gained in the game at that moment in character.
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Ok but if dante is serious he would know maybe it would be wise to use my hax to instantly kill his opponents.Sparda 20000000 said:
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@Blue
For the love of god, please do not quote large blocks of text, thank you
And actually Dante did kill Argosax fast enough and he was barely fazed by him, which is seen from how he blitzed him and didn't even look at the guy while Jackpot'ing him
For the love of god, please do not quote large blocks of text, thank you
And actually Dante did kill Argosax fast enough and he was barely fazed by him, which is seen from how he blitzed him and didn't even look at the guy while Jackpot'ing him
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Seriously mate stop spam the thread
Dante didn't need to use his hax on characters who are far below him
Why kill a spider with a gun when you can just stomp on it
Dante didn't need to use his hax on characters who are far below him
Why kill a spider with a gun when you can just stomp on it
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Ya he blitzed argosax, he want be able to blitz here due to speed equalized and still he didn't use his has either.
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What I'm saying is that there was no need for Dante to use his best stuff against someone who wouldn't cause him any significant harm. Sparda pretty much explained that above
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Dante:8
Shadow:1
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Responding to a thread is not spam. And that will be Dante's downfall as shadow is almost always serious and wants to end the fight the best way possible regardless of if the opponent is weak or strong. And considering that this is shadow with his limiters of he isn't going to fool around and let dante pull anything out if he were to.
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Once Dante realizes that Shadman is on par with him, he'll be all out as well
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It is when you are sending three to four replies at a time
Like rep said shadow used his hax Dante uses his own and he much more hax then shadow and 3 ways to manipulate time
Like rep said shadow used his hax Dante uses his own and he much more hax then shadow and 3 ways to manipulate time
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Got any evidence to back that up before he gets beat by shadow who isn't going to hold back at all against dante.
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You are making sound like Dante is just going to stand there like a lemon and let shadow kill him
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Well considering I am replying to different people that is not spam. And again dante doesn't use his hax in character whether serious or not.
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Dante isn't going to stand there and die I am just saying that shadow uses his hax before dante uses his.
I mean you could always show me dante using his hax in character to defeat a boss.
I mean you could always show me dante using his hax in character to defeat a boss.
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Sadly, there's no evidence... 'cause every single boss is a fodder to him (sans Mundus)Blueblur24 said:
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Come on seriously just edit your last replie
Dante didn't use his hax because nobody could match him shadow however can match Dante in raw strength he sees shadow using his hax he responds with his own Dante isn't stupid
Can somebody close this now
It's 8 to 1 in Dante's favour and it's just a back and forth between reb myself and blue
Dante didn't use his hax because nobody could match him shadow however can match Dante in raw strength he sees shadow using his hax he responds with his own Dante isn't stupid
Can somebody close this now
It's 8 to 1 in Dante's favour and it's just a back and forth between reb myself and blue
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Well every boss being fodder Isn't a good reason as to why he doesn't use his hax in character and also the bosses he faces also have hax of their and yet he doesn't use his to counter theirs. But he want get a chance to use his hax because shadow isn't about to just let him pull out things.
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Tell me why, please.Blueblur24 said:
And what hax do other bosses have? Mundus doesn't count 'cause he's the only non-fodder who Dante fought
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And when dante fought mundus did he use his hax
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