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Even a Staff like Schenee Who knows deeply SBA than us says that we can't appy someones verse rules to another.
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Seven three VS Ichigo.
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Yes it is. Are you saying Moro can’t kill an irl human in a matchup with life force absorption just because they aren’t stated to have life force?
Well seeing as it’s been established that robots don’t have souls, to proceed with this line of questioning we would have to assume that said lack of souls hasn’t been established at all in the verse or else this question is pointless. If it hasn’t been established, the question becomes, why does it contradict DB lore?
My bad, it makes it so that powers for both verses work as they should in their respective verses unless the opposing verse has an established mechanic or rule that would prevent the equalisation. In other words a contradiction is required to not equalise the two. Without a statement for non living things lacking souls in one verse (and because I know someone will try to jump this, I already agreed DB robots are stated to not have souls. Please do not address this as if I hadn’t), there is no contradiction to be had when he equalising it with a verse that does have souls in non living things, as such they get equalised when the latter tries to soul hax the other as that is what they are capable of in their own setting.
Where did he say this? Because if you are referring to when he said this
No not really, that’s not how we quantify how an ability works.
Immunity to conventional soul manipulation is on the wiki but if one can soul hax robots then it’s moot.
The second paragraph goes against what you are saying. There was a thread before about soul haxing things that don’t have souls (it was caused by Alphamon soul haxing Dark Area Digimon despite them having no soul or smth iirc) where it was established that you can’t soul hax something without a soul (obviously) but unless the verse says something lacks a soul, the two would be equalised to say it does or else one verse is granted a power that was never established. Immunity to conventional soul hax only comes when things are stated to not have a soul or the soul in the setting is weird af and not how it is traditionally portrayed.
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Schenee answering Pain:
"That’s on me, I said there wasn’t any reason why he had a soul other then he’s a robot"
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That doesn’t make sense if it’s somehow in regards to applying a verse’s rules to another due to verse equal. Pretty sure that was Gar claiming responsibility for telling me that the lack of souls was just an assumption iirc.
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Who is that??
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Schnee's old name was Gargoyle One, I'm just used to thinking of him in that way.
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He hasn't, since he has Inorganic Physiology type 2
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I was under the impression it wasn't actually stated in DB at first but then got told he does, and most recently have been told that Androids got sent to hell and resurrected which requires a soul. I got no ******* clue at this point tbh.
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What??,Nooo...,it wa never stated nor shown
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Like I said, I don't know DB so I'm currently waiting on scans to verify the claims.
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Androids? I only remember 17 and 18,and IIRC this is a different case because
1- unlike 7-3, they're not totally artificial, they were humans before
2- the wish made at Shenron from Krillin & co. Shenron pretty much made them human again as far as I remember
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That wish didn't do anything, they just removed the bombs.
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That was me assuming there was no evidence for him not having a soul other then he was an Android.
I wasn’t aware he didn’t have Ki
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That was Android 17 and 18, but they aren’t androids, they’re cyborgs.
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Yeah seven-three has Inorganic Physiology (Type 2)
So that should make him resist soul Manipulation and he was said to be a killing machine that has no emotions so he can't feel fear
"This type of character is typically immune to Soul Manipulation due to lacking a soul"
So that should make him resist soul Manipulation and he was said to be a killing machine that has no emotions so he can't feel fear
"This type of character is typically immune to Soul Manipulation due to lacking a soul"
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Androids in dbz aren't really androids- yeah it's weird
they are cyborgs
Also no, verse equalization won't work like that, if it did, moro would have RC, zanpakto and I also wonder if he would be a Quincy or a hollow? But- non living things by definition/ standard assumptions wouldn't have souls, since that trait is exclusive to living things
Also Ichigo needs feat of soul haxing soulless beings
they are cyborgs
Also no, verse equalization won't work like that, if it did, moro would have RC, zanpakto and I also wonder if he would be a Quincy or a hollow? But- non living things by definition/ standard assumptions wouldn't have souls, since that trait is exclusive to living things
Also Ichigo needs feat of soul haxing soulless beings
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Android 16 wasn't revived because he had no soul 7-3 is same as him a completely mechanical android
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16,8,19 and 7-3 are actual android 17,18 and 20 are cyborgs
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Give it 2 days and he won’t be lmao
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yeh lol
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Lol, why is Bleach getting upgrades and downgrades over and over, one day I enter SK's Page and I find him Low 2-C m, the Next day 5-B, lol. This Bleach's CRTS need to stop
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I agree with him but Arc is mega stubborn about it. Fingers crossed that nothing even remotely relating to god tiers pops up in the foreseeable future regardless of the outcome.
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73 stomps.
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We should make this match for now, as Ichigo is being upgraded to Low 2-C
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That's great
Moro eats/absorbs him
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The notion Bleach gets to Heroes is vomit inducing. Get help. Infinite multiverse level of hacks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whatever wank you try for Bleach. Even people who get insanely power cliffed like the Demon Gods passively neg.
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Bleach soul hax is dangerous, and Heroes is getting downgraded, some are going to 2-C, others 2-B, and some of them doesnt resist soul hax in the same scale as Bleach, so, I dont see why is it "vomit inducing"
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I wouldn't say it's vomit inducing , considering Heroes still solos Bleach. They have their ways to counter RC
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What?? Heroes getting downgraded??
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Ye, TPU Mechikabura and above down to 2-B, and others who scale below him to 2-C
