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Well, my Kirei's Speed discussion were closed https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1012414
I still have my analysis and opinion. So. I'm continuing on this new discussion
There is no Speed stats on Nasuverse, so Agility = Speed on this universe.
Well, on the Speed page, there are plenty kind of Speeds
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed
Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed
Servant's Attack speed: Massively Hypersonic, yes it's possible for the likes of Excalibur Proto's beam / Excaliblast ...and is there any Servant that could evade that thing?? the Servants was only able to counter those things with similar speed of attacks, and need some preparation and distance before be able to counter those things, I can't imagine Lancer / Rider can outrun Excaliblast, and even Bellerophon's speed is only around Subsonic at max (500km/h = 138.8 m/s) http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Belleropho
So MHS for average speed of Servants is overstatement IMHO.
Reaction Speed: Archer's reaction speed (experience based reaction) for avoided Lancer's true speedy attack at close range "Reaction speed is reacting to an attack that you don't know is going to happen, or at a very close range.", .. MHS? I don't think so. The page also specified the mechanics of aim dodging (for example Lancelot's ability to grab weapons from Babylon Gates' attack, and Lancer's Arrow Protection). So I still say this is around Hypersonic+ as high end value for A-rank agility Servants.
Travel Speed: Can most Servants outrun Archer's arrows? and I wanna know the speed calculation of Caladbolg II, where did the 400 Mach came from??, the speed of attack is the same as Archer's regular arrow or Hrunting (Mach 10, Hypersonic+) http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Hrunting , the only difference is the power of the arrow. Only Servants with Command Seal boost that were able to travelled as comparably fast (Saber vs Archer, Hollow Ataraxia)
I still consider Fate Stay Night VN as a strongest basis of Servants stats.
Gilgamesh is kinda slower than most, but his equipments' Speed are top-tier, his average Servant's reaction speed and keeping up some distance from opponents also helped him, so keeping up with faster Servants is normal for him
as for my conclusion on Archer EMIYA:
Attack Speed: Hypersonic+ (Hollow Ataraxia - Hrunting's feat, Mach 10, it is fast enough to eventually overwhelm Saber on the fifth shot after deflecting the first four consecutive shots)
Reaction Speed: Hypersonic, likely Hypersonic+ (barely avoided a close-ranged, serious Lancer's thrust, The True Eye of The Mind: B-rank)
Travel / Movement Speed: Supersonic+, much faster with Command Seal boost (but as for Archer, Subsonic continuous movement speed is still possible, one step above Kirei's travelling speed (without boost) at SuperHuman)
I still have my analysis and opinion. So. I'm continuing on this new discussion
There is no Speed stats on Nasuverse, so Agility = Speed on this universe.
Well, on the Speed page, there are plenty kind of Speeds
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed
Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed
Servant's Attack speed: Massively Hypersonic, yes it's possible for the likes of Excalibur Proto's beam / Excaliblast ...and is there any Servant that could evade that thing?? the Servants was only able to counter those things with similar speed of attacks, and need some preparation and distance before be able to counter those things, I can't imagine Lancer / Rider can outrun Excaliblast, and even Bellerophon's speed is only around Subsonic at max (500km/h = 138.8 m/s) http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Belleropho
So MHS for average speed of Servants is overstatement IMHO.
Reaction Speed: Archer's reaction speed (experience based reaction) for avoided Lancer's true speedy attack at close range "Reaction speed is reacting to an attack that you don't know is going to happen, or at a very close range.", .. MHS? I don't think so. The page also specified the mechanics of aim dodging (for example Lancelot's ability to grab weapons from Babylon Gates' attack, and Lancer's Arrow Protection). So I still say this is around Hypersonic+ as high end value for A-rank agility Servants.
Travel Speed: Can most Servants outrun Archer's arrows? and I wanna know the speed calculation of Caladbolg II, where did the 400 Mach came from??, the speed of attack is the same as Archer's regular arrow or Hrunting (Mach 10, Hypersonic+) http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Hrunting , the only difference is the power of the arrow. Only Servants with Command Seal boost that were able to travelled as comparably fast (Saber vs Archer, Hollow Ataraxia)
I still consider Fate Stay Night VN as a strongest basis of Servants stats.
Gilgamesh is kinda slower than most, but his equipments' Speed are top-tier, his average Servant's reaction speed and keeping up some distance from opponents also helped him, so keeping up with faster Servants is normal for him
as for my conclusion on Archer EMIYA:
Attack Speed: Hypersonic+ (Hollow Ataraxia - Hrunting's feat, Mach 10, it is fast enough to eventually overwhelm Saber on the fifth shot after deflecting the first four consecutive shots)
Reaction Speed: Hypersonic, likely Hypersonic+ (barely avoided a close-ranged, serious Lancer's thrust, The True Eye of The Mind: B-rank)
Travel / Movement Speed: Supersonic+, much faster with Command Seal boost (but as for Archer, Subsonic continuous movement speed is still possible, one step above Kirei's travelling speed (without boost) at SuperHuman)